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Old 12-02-2020, 12:44 PM #16
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4runner can recognize 5 TPMS. I had 5 installed and always did 5 tire rotations with no issues. Wish the Tundra had the same capacity.

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4runner can recognize 5 TPMS. I had 5 installed and always did 5 tire rotations with no issues. Wish the Tundra had the same capacity.

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Well is what it is. Figured he was prob wrong. Didn’t feel like sitting there all morning again while they dismount my tire and swap it out.

I’ll maybe try again once I get the truck mostly together. I’ll be honest tho I’m not losing sleep over it and I would rather other people didn’t put wrenches to my financial mistake.
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I'm about to pick up a 2021 and negotiated a real wheel/tire instead of the standard spare. I asked to ensure TPMS is included in the new wheel and no comment from them that it wouldn't work. Never occurred to me that the system wouldn't automatically pick up the changes after a 5-wheel rotation so I didn't even ask... Two Wranglers I had would identify when the wheel locations changed (even though it would only display the pressure in the 4 active wheels).
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I'm about to pick up a 2021 and negotiated a real wheel/tire instead of the standard spare. I asked to ensure TPMS is included in the new wheel and no comment from them that it wouldn't work. Never occurred to me that the system wouldn't automatically pick up the changes after a 5-wheel rotation so I didn't even ask... Two Wranglers I had would identify when the wheel locations changed (even though it would only display the pressure in the 4 active wheels).
Yeah idk why it has to be programmed. It's even more annoying to track them on the scanguage. One day ill get a radio that can display them instead.

Side note I noticed the guy at discount tried to tell me it was my front right that was out not the back right. I went home and threw the fifth wheel with the rubber valve stem on the back right to rotate it. I still had the three other readouts on the scanguage my way to work as I have since swapping the wheels. So I'm not even sure he was using the tool right. Annoying.


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Looks like I’ll have to use my eyeballs and a mechanical gauge. How ever will I survive.


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Shame tho. Seems like an antiquated tpms setup. There should be a reset button too.
Yes...totally agree there should be a relearn or reset procedure - on every vehicle!


Interesting that some 4Rs recognize a 5th wheel while others don't. Will have to test mine at rotation...

My brother and I frequently have debates ... I have always preferred to rotate 5 and he rotates 4. I don't want to have reduced capability on the spare or have to depend on a tire that has been dry rotting for 6+ years.

Not to mention that buying a tire that sits under your vehicle, unused, is a waste.
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Yes...totally agree there should be a relearn or reset procedure - on every vehicle!


Interesting that some 4Rs recognize a 5th wheel while others don't. Will have to test mine at rotation...

My brother and I frequently have debates ... I have always preferred to rotate 5 and he rotates 4. I don't want to have reduced capability on the spare or have to depend on a tire that has been dry rotting for 6+ years.

Not to mention that buying a tire that sits under your vehicle, unused, is a waste.
I'm going to a steel bumper with a carrier so I figure I might as well rotate 5. I would imagine it extends the life of the tires... of course getting new tires costs more but so does everything on these trucks.

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That's weird because my 4th gen Limited senses the spare TPMS. Weird how they would go backwards on that.
Yep. I’ve had two 4th gens and had five sensors on both.
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my 2015 limited has 5 sensors. Tire light was on from previous owner, he said one of the sensors was bad. I dropped the spare and it only had 20 psi, filled it up to 35 and no sensor since.
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Yes...totally agree there should be a relearn or reset procedure - on every vehicle!


Interesting that some 4Rs recognize a 5th wheel while others don't. Will have to test mine at rotation...

My brother and I frequently have debates ... I have always preferred to rotate 5 and he rotates 4. I don't want to have reduced capability on the spare or have to depend on a tire that has been dry rotting for 6+ years.

Not to mention that buying a tire that sits under your vehicle, unused, is a waste.
Another benefit of the 5-wheel rotation is you don't have any financial resistance to pick different tires when the time comes (not having to throw out an unused spare and buy/mount another matching 5th). Of course this only applies to us who upgrade to a real rim/spare.
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Another benefit of the 5-wheel rotation is you don't have any financial resistance to pick different tires when the time comes (not having to throw out an unused spare and buy/mount another matching 5th). Of course this only applies to us who upgrade to a real rim/spare.
The spare just has to be the same size, doesn't have to be the same brand/type. I've been running the same 285 spare first gen TA/KO for years and have used it twice once with 3 Blizzaks and once with 3 Destination MTs. It's almost 7 years old and doesn't show signs of dry rotting

And many tire shops don't like to sell odd numbers of tires.
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I just ordered 5 new of everything, so we will see how that works out for me. Currently I have 4 sensors on 5 wheels and one of them is on the bumper. So if I can only get 4 to work... oh well, same situation I've been in for awhile. Only time it's been an issue is when the light came on and all 4 tires had good pressure. Took me a minute to remember to check the spare.
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The spare just has to be the same size, doesn't have to be the same brand/type. I've been running the same 285 spare first gen TA/KO for years and have used it twice once with 3 Blizzaks and once with 3 Destination MTs. It's almost 7 years old and doesn't show signs of dry rotting

And many tire shops don't like to sell odd numbers of tires.
Agree. I was thinking of the spare on the rear vs underneath. But your point is still valid if not concerned with having the rear spare match the other 4.

(btw, I had a white '94 FJ80 for 20 years. Ultimately gave it up due to rust I couldn't keep up with. Worst spot was under the rear deck which I attributed to my neglect in clearing the salt captured above the spare. Hence, my plan to use a hitch carrier on the 4runner. And my rear window looked very similar to yours...)
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... Of course this only applies to us who upgrade to a real rim/spare.
yeah i was surprised Toyota cheaped out with the steel spare when I finally got around in installing a proper sized spare.

Our old highlander has TPMS in the spare location, kind of odd that it is not standard on the 4runner since it's toyota offroad suv. Hope the landcruiser at least has.
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yeah i was surprised Toyota cheaped out with the steel spare when I finally got around in installing a proper sized spare.

Our old highlander has TPMS in the spare location, kind of odd that it is not standard on the 4runner since it's toyota offroad suv. Hope the landcruiser at least has.
I like it when the spare comes with the same kind of wheel because if you destroy one, you'll always have a matching spare even if it goes out of production.
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