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Old 12-02-2020, 03:31 PM #1
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5th Gen Navigation question

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I recently purchased a 2021 Venture which includes navigation. I am unclear as to whether I have to pay for a subscription after three years. Toyotas website is not very clear. Anyone know? Thanks in advance.

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Hello everyone,

I recently purchased a 2021 Venture which includes navigation. I am unclear as to whether I have to pay for a subscription after three years. Toyotas website is not very clear. Anyone know? Thanks in advance.

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You don't have to pay for Navigation. The maps are pre-loaded. You will have to pay to update the maps in the future if you're wanting the most updated maps due to new roads being built. I've never paid for an update since I mainly use my phone navigation.
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you should have the car-play on 2021 so you can use your phone's navigation i think the maps from Toyota are couple years old,
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Ahh..that makes sense, I saw something on their website when I logged into my Toyota account that mentioned navigation and subscription - I never had to pay a subscription for navigation on a vehicle before, so it caught me off guard.

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You don't have to pay for Navigation. The maps are pre-loaded. You will have to pay to update the maps in the future if you're wanting the most updated maps due to new roads being built. I've never paid for an update since I mainly use my phone navigation.
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Ahh..that makes sense, I saw something on their website when I logged into my Toyota account that mentioned navigation and subscription - I never had to pay a subscription for navigation on a vehicle before, so it caught me off guard.

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Where the confusion comes from is Toyota, for years, offered TWO different navigation systems: the "connected" navigation system, and the "integrated" navigation system.

The integrated navigation was completely self contained with the map data in a memory chip, while the connected navigation system relied on getting the map data through your cell phone. The connected navigation was free for a period, but then required a subscription (plus data usage on your cell phone).

The connected navigation system was terrible, to say the least, with many, many complaints.

I just looked at the sales brochure for my 2018 4Runner, the connected navigation was standard for the SR5, but the integrated navigation was an extra cost option (standard on the SR5 Premium and above).
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Hi fkheqth, it’s definitely confusing. I’m thinking the navigation is included/built into the head unit so there is no subscription. Similar to other vehicles with built-in navigation. Thanks again for the reply and the information.

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Where the confusion comes from is Toyota, for years, offered TWO different navigation systems: the "connected" navigation system, and the "integrated" navigation system.

The integrated navigation was completely self contained with the map data in a memory chip, while the connected navigation system relied on getting the map data through your cell phone. The connected navigation was free for a period, but then required a subscription (plus data usage on your cell phone).

The connected navigation system was terrible, to say the least, with many, many complaints.

I just looked at the sales brochure for my 2018 4Runner, the connected navigation was standard for the SR5, but the integrated navigation was an extra cost option (standard on the SR5 Premium and above).
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FWIW I updated the nav on my 18 orp from an ebay chip for like $30 shipped. I think the dealer wanted $180 and all they do is pull out the sd card, put in the new one and wait for it to update
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