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Front coil options - 730lbs but too stiff
I have a full CBI front bumper plus winch, which I’m guessing is about 270lbs total. The steel bumper itself is listed at 200lb. Unfortunately, I am hating the stiff ride especially over cracked or bad roads in the city. I suppose this is from the 730lb spring rate.
Coils I have:
Dobinsons C59-352 - 200-240LBS heavy load front weight, 2.0-2.25" lift. 385/385mm, 18mm wire, 730LB
Well, would perhaps a 650lb coil, but longer spring, give me the same lift but be softer? Any recommendations? I am pretty happy with the current lift height or could go 0.24-0.5” higher.
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12-03-2020, 07:38 PM
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12-03-2020, 07:45 PM
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12-03-2020, 09:39 PM
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I'm going to assume you have KDSS. Disconnect both sides of your front sway bar at the LCAs, rotate it so the ends are pointing toward the front, strap it up out of the way and go for a drive.
ETA: I did this when I replaced my LCAs because of a broken bushing; was short of time and needed to take it in to get aligned. Noticed how nice it rode in town so took it out to the desert for some washboard dirt roads that I normally would have to air down my tires for or go <15mph as I'm being shaken to death and my front bumper is smacking my fenders. It was like a trophy truck, I could go 50mph+ comfortably.
I won't be hitting any autocross tracks, but with the rear sway bar it is fine. Ended up running without the rear sway bar for a few weeks after that when I found broken bushings there as well, and I would NOT recommend running on the road with no sway bars.
Side note: Toyota OEM bushings are good for about 250k miles. At 265, I had front right LCA rear bushing completely break, the rest of the front LCA bushings were mostly torn and close to breaking, the rear KDSS bar had one broken bushing, and the rear LCAs bushings were mostly cracked. Upper rears were still pretty good, but I replaced them anyway
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12-04-2020, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by str8flexed
I have a full CBI front bumper plus winch, which I’m guessing is about 270lbs total. The steel bumper itself is listed at 200lb. Unfortunately, I am hating the stiff ride especially over cracked or bad roads in the city. I suppose this is from the 730lb spring rate.
Coils I have:
Dobinsons C59-352 - 200-240LBS heavy load front weight, 2.0-2.25" lift. 385/385mm, 18mm wire, 730LB
Well, would perhaps a 650lb coil, but longer spring, give me the same lift but be softer? Any recommendations? I am pretty happy with the current lift height or could go 0.24-0.5” higher.
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Those are the correct springs for that amount of weight. I have less weight than you and with the 354 coils and I wouldn't say it's stiff up front. What struts are you using.
The C59-314 would be the only other option from Dobinsons, and will sit within about 1/4-1/2" of where you are now, but I wouldn't normally recommend them with that much weight that you have.
A bad alignment would have it feel like crap too
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