12-04-2020, 05:13 PM
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Instead of focusing on what’s the best tire for MPGs, focus on better driving habits or learn how to Hypermile.
You can ask someone who’s riding on the best tires for MPGs but if he drives like shit on a daily basis then it wouldn’t matter. Everyone will have different answers but we can all agree we all get bad gas mileage when we bump up to 285’s.
My average MPG’s are 14-15 but I’m probably on one of the worse tires for MPGs (285 Falken Wildpeak MT’s) and drive like how I want to drive not worrying about gas mileage. It is what it is. It ain’t no Prius.
My suggestion is get the tires that you like. Appearance, performance, reliability, and tread life.
Don’t worry about the MPGs that it makes.
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12-04-2020, 05:26 PM
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I had K02 C-load and now I have Hankook Dynapro AT2 RF11 E-Load. Not much difference in MPG, these new ones may even get a little better MPGs. These Hankooks though are so much smoother and quieter. I love them so far, I'll just have to see how they do off-road.
I think the Discount Tire Pathfinder AT P-load (SL Load) might be up your alley. They are Hankook's with a different name and weigh in at 43 lbs. 55,000 mile warranty. The reason I got the Hankook is that the tread depth on the Hankook is 20/32 and the tread depth on the Pathfinder was 15/32. I guess Discount tire can't make the Pathfinder exactly the same as the Hankook, otherwise they wouldn't sell any. But still a 55,000 mile warranty on the Pathfinder is good.
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12-04-2020, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by comtn4x4
I agree with what
@ ryguytheman
said about a well priced tire.
I would consider the KO2 to be on the more aggressive side of the AT tire spectrum. You said you won't be off roading much, KO2's aren't especially good in the snow, I assume you're buying it for the looks then?
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I read in some other threads that the KO2 aren’t particularly great in wet or snow, so for that reason and the weight of them, I wasn’t planning on going that direction. I had a set of Toyo AT3s on an early Bronco and liked them, but that was strictly a for-fun-only vehicle and I wasn’t at all concerned with cost or mpg or anything like that. I see a lot of people running them on their Runners... thinking they might be a good option.
I’m looking at 285’s because of looks alone. I just think that a lifted truck should have appropriately sized tires to go with it... going smaller sort of seems like “forgetting to lift legs” at the gym.
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12-04-2020, 06:21 PM
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FWIW, I am averaging 16.111 mpg, min 14.934 and max 18.445, with
BFG K02 LT285 /70 R17 121R E1 RWL
which I assume is the E-rated version
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12-04-2020, 08:33 PM
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I read in some other threads that the KO2 aren’t particularly great in wet or snow, so for that reason and the weight of them, I wasn’t planning on going that direction. I had a set of Toyo AT3s on an early Bronco and liked them, but that was strictly a for-fun-only vehicle and I wasn’t at all concerned with cost or mpg or anything like that. I see a lot of people running them on their Runners... thinking they might be a good option.
I’m looking at 285’s because of looks alone. I just think that a lifted truck should have appropriately sized tires to go with it... going smaller sort of seems like “forgetting to lift legs” at the gym.
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I know you can get snowflake TA/KO2s.
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12-04-2020, 08:45 PM
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Hey All,
I’m new to the 4Runner world. Just picked up a ‘20 Venture and currently gathering everything for a lift (going with King 2.5’s front and back, SPC UCAs and 2” Icon coils in the rear). I’m planning on either 285/70s or 285/75s on the stock TRD wheels.
With this being my daily driver, I’d like to find the best tire option to maximize mpg. Was wondering if anyone running a lift and 285’s can offer any recommendations on which tires I should look at.
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If you"re trying to maximize MPG, sell the 4runner and buy a Prius.
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12-04-2020, 08:56 PM
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I have been very happy with my Yokohama Geolandar G015 A/T tires in 255/75/17 on my 4th gen. Long life and pretty quiet. They’re a 32” tire, SL rated, only 41 lbs.
You can buy them in 285/70r17 either SL rated passenger tires or E rated LT tires. It’s a 33” tire.
The SL rated 285 tire is only 45 lbs. The E rated 285 tire is 54 lbs. The lighter tire is $203 at tire rack. The E tire is $238 there.
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12-05-2020, 12:25 AM
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Falken Wildpeaks SL AT3W 285-70-17’s on OEM Pro wheels. 51#’s each. Smooth, fairly quiet ride. 2.5” up front, 1” rear. No mods or rubbing. The offset and width of the Pro wheel along with a 285/70-17 allows for the best clearance with the least amount of mods. I get 15 +/- 1/2 mpg street. Waiting for a road trip to check hwy mileage. It’s a 2 1/2 ton brick. Don’t expect much. At $3 per gallon on a 1000 mile road trip, the difference between 16mpg and 19mpg is $30. Even if you are doing as much as 3k a month, $90 extra is nothing.
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12-05-2020, 01:59 AM
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Falken Wildpeaks SL AT3W 285-70-17’s on OEM Pro wheels. 51#’s each. Smooth, fairly quiet ride. 2.5” up front, 1” rear. No mods or rubbing. The offset and width of the Pro wheel along with a 285/70-17 allows for the best clearance with the least amount of mods. I get 15 +/- 1/2 mpg street. Waiting for a road trip to check hwy mileage. It’s a 2 1/2 ton brick. Don’t expect much. At $3 per gallon on a 1000 mile road trip, the difference between 16mpg and 19mpg is $30. Even if you are doing as much as 3k a month, $90 extra is nothing.
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That’s a great point. When you break it down like that, it’s really not that big of a deal.
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12-05-2020, 04:39 AM
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I switched to 285/70 and mileage stayed exact same. Shitty!
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12-05-2020, 09:21 AM
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I'm running 285/70/17 SL load Toyo AT3's on Method 17x8.5 wheels. I've got a winch on a budbuilt mount and a heavy steel RCI skid plate underneath. Lifted about 2-3/4" up front and 1-3/4" in the back. The toyos are actually the third set of 285's I put on it in about a months time. Started with Falkens which I loved except they WOULD NOT balance. Not even remotely close. Went to C-load BFG's which were almost as bad. 3 days later went with the Toyos. Still waiting for a credit on the Falkens and it's been six months. Don't buy tires from secondary non-official dealers of tires.... Anyhow. I'm very pleased with the Toyo's and in mixed new england driving I average a bit over 19mpg. If I take a long highway trip fully loaded it goes down to like 17.5 if I'm going 75-80. For what it is it's great. But keep in mind I'm pretty easy on it too.
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12-05-2020, 02:04 PM
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I was worried about losing too much MPG when going up to 285s, too, but you'll get over it. Like everyone said, it wasn't great to begin with anyways. I think weight makes the most difference, the heavier your setup, the more you'll lose. I went from Nitto Terra Grapplers in P265\70\17 @ 44lbs each on 20lb wheels, 64lbs per corner to Toyo RT LT285\70\17s @ 60lbs each on same wheels, so 80lbs per corner. I went from averaging about 17.3MPG to 16.8MPG. what I noticed is that it's more sensitive to how you drive. I can still see MPGs in the 17s if I'm really easy in gas, and do mostly highway\feeeway driving, but once you hit stop and go city diving it drops quick. I feel the benefits of stepping up to 285s out weigh the loss in fuel efficiency
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I bought my 4runner used, from a Toyota dealer. Already had 285's on it, so I never missed the pre-285 mileage.
Getting 16-18 mpg
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12-07-2020, 10:33 AM
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I read in some other threads that the KO2 aren’t particularly great in wet or snow, so for that reason and the weight of them, I wasn’t planning on going that direction. I had a set of Toyo AT3s on an early Bronco and liked them, but that was strictly a for-fun-only vehicle and I wasn’t at all concerned with cost or mpg or anything like that. I see a lot of people running them on their Runners... thinking they might be a good option.
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FWIW I have had the opposite experience. I've had the older BFG KO and now BFG KO2s on multiple vehicles over the years. They are amazing in the snow and suprisingly capable offroad vs. other ATs I've run. They are quiet on the road all while being fairly aggressive, especially for an AT. I am still confident they are the most consistent and one of the best tire buys out there. Snowflake rated, 3 ply sidewall. Not much here not to like.
With that said, I have not run them on a 4runner yet.
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12-07-2020, 11:49 AM
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Mileage report after driving 2,667 miles from Pittsburgh to Seattle back in July. These were all hand-calculated.
1st fill: 17.9 mpg
2nd fill: 18.1 mpg
3rd fill: 18.4 mpg
4th fill: 14.6 mpg < spent most of this at 85 instead of 75
5th fill: 16.5 mpg < lots of "city" driving
6th fill: 19.0 mpg
8th fill: 18.5 mpg
9th fill: 16.6 mpg < lots of long uphill stretches
Couldn't calculate the 7th fill, some little hippy girl was bumming gas so I filled her 5gal can up while I was filling my tank.
285s with 2.5" lift.
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