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Originally Posted by bzizzi
I had a 2011 4R that I purchased new in 2011, vehicle developed a groaning noise in front end only in 2WD, soon as I shifted to 4 hi noise would go away. I fought with Toyota dealer for months over this, they replaced a wheel bearing, rotated tires, even put wireless microphones on each wheel to isolate noise. They tried to tell me there was nothing wrong with vehicle. Toyota finally brought district tech into dealer and he found the problem right away. Turned out that needle bearings in front end where totally destroyed, so bad that shaft actually was wearing into the casting, once dealer replaced front axle assembly noise was gone for good.
So now here I am in 2020 with a new 4R TRD ORP with 1500 miles on the odometer and I hear the same noise ! What the hell is going on ? Anyone else experience this issue. I know there is a TSB for this but you would think after all this time Toyota would have fixed this for good. Do they all do this ? Here is the TSB#....TSB T-SB-0026-15.
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So yeah - you're not alone I would say. From the research I've been doing on the topic over the last 3 years the common denominator is that the same parts have been used in the entire chain of vehicles, and while I cannot say for sure its doubtful they have revised this part in the new ones so even if you receive a replacement diff under TSB identification it can have the potential to do the same thing. I just ignored the groaning every winter (presumably as the metal contracts in much colder temps the freeplay in that shaft / bearing assembly increased enough to make that noise considerably louder, never heard the issue in summer)
Anyway - after three trips to two different dealers to narrow that down, they all became no problem found results and service managers and techs alike never heard of an issue like that in these vehicles. Really? So that gave me a ton of confidence to have any of them pulling apart my front end to replace the differential assembly even if I could convince someone that this isn't a normal gear train noise.
Spoke to my local off road guy who's been changing those bearings out for the last decade really, primarily for lifted trucks of course with beyond stock CV shaft angles that develop the same problem and his go to solution is the same thing - replace the needle bearing. He uses the same thing as ECGS but he obtains them from Nitro Gear.
I just did this actually as I came out of 3 year bumper to bumper warranty. Should have done it 2 years ago really was so simple he did it in an hour for petes sake. Noise gone, dead quiet as it should be and we've had below zero cold in these parts lately I'd have heard the damn thing groaning away for sure. Anyway - thats my experience, good luck, seems like you're going down the same road - no pun intended