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Old 12-17-2020, 02:47 PM #31
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If you find yourself needing chains, youíre better off with studded tires.
Chains are beefier than studded tires
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Skip the chains, just get yourself a set of these "winter tires" instead.
I actually wish there was a product just like this that you could put on+take off as needed
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Skip the chains, just get yourself a set of these "winter tires" instead.
With all that steel between road and suspension I bet the ride is nice and plush, lol.
The communities that prohibit or limit studded snow tires would just love dealing with these things. But they sure look like fun for driving around your own farm or closed-off roads.
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5th Gen 4Runner here. I'm a member of the Colorado 4x4 Recovery Org. Often times we are out on the trails to recover someone stuck in the deep snow or pull some vehicle that's slid over the edge of an off camber snow cover trail. The jeeps that go on recoveries with us are always chained up on all four corners. In fact we are often told 4 chains are required. I've only ever chained up the rear on my 4Runner but am looking for a solution for the front as well. I'm wondering if cables on the front along with chains on the rear would work ok.

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With all that steel between road and suspension I bet the ride is nice and plush, lol.
The communities that prohibit or limit studded snow tires would just love dealing with these things. But they sure look like fun for driving around your own farm or closed-off roads.
In West Yellowstone, all the Yellowstone NP tour vans/buses use those. They don't plow the roads, only groom them like they do on a ski slope.
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5th Gen 4Runner here. I'm a member of the Colorado 4x4 Recovery Org. Often times we are out on the trails to recover someone stuck in the deep snow or pull some vehicle that's slid over the edge of an off camber snow cover trail. The jeeps that go on recoveries with us are always chained up on all four corners. In fact we are often told 4 chains are required. I've only ever chained up the rear on my 4Runner but am looking for a solution for the front as well. I'm wondering if cables on the front along with chains on the rear would work ok.

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The Jeeps will laugh at you.

Good cable chains might help some, they will definitely help with ice, and they will help to some extent with snow, but not as much as ladder chains.

The problem with the ladder chains is clearance, or course. You would need a solid inch all around, at full lock, including between the tire and the UCA. IDK if we have that with 33 in tires.
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5th Gen 4Runner here. I'm a member of the Colorado 4x4 Recovery Org. Often times we are out on the trails to recover someone stuck in the deep snow or pull some vehicle that's slid over the edge of an off camber snow cover trail. The jeeps that go on recoveries with us are always chained up on all four corners. In fact we are often told 4 chains are required. I've only ever chained up the rear on my 4Runner but am looking for a solution for the front as well. I'm wondering if cables on the front along with chains on the rear would work ok.

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Cables will be an improvement in traction upfront but they tend to break according to some.
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I have run these at all 4 corners without any issues.

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Iíve always heard war stories about front chains/cables cutting brake lines...
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Everything I've seen says "no" to front chains. Things will break, and it won't be the chains.


I DO like Nobody Special's fabric alternative; those look to be very low profile.


: ) But they don't look as rugged as chains, so people sleep on it.

The theory with the wool socks is easily replicated.
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5th Gen 4Runner here. I'm a member of the Colorado 4x4 Recovery Org.
Question for you - as I'll be out in CO a little this winter. I've got a tire, (Toyo ATIII) thats snow rated, and carries the three-peak mountain snowflake symbol.

If there is plenty of tread, does that meet the requirement when the road signs mandate chains? Or do chains mean chains / straps / auto socks?
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Question for you - as I'll be out in CO a little this winter. I've got a tire, (Toyo ATIII) thats snow rated, and carries the three-peak mountain snowflake symbol.

If there is plenty of tread, does that meet the requirement when the road signs mandate chains? Or do chains mean chains / straps / auto socks?
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Question for you - as I'll be out in CO a little this winter. I've got a tire, (Toyo ATIII) thats snow rated, and carries the three-peak mountain snowflake symbol.

If there is plenty of tread, does that meet the requirement when the road signs mandate chains? Or do chains mean chains / straps / auto socks?
They normally don't require passenger vehicles to chainup . If the weather is really bad they normally shut down the tunnels and passes. I would carry chains for when you are on back roads cause they get steep and icy in the mountains. Give big rigs a wide birth and don't cut em off specially when going down steep hills.

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Code 15/Passenger Traction Law: All motorists are required to either have an all-wheel or four-wheel drive vehicle, or (for two-wheel drive vehicles) snow tires or all-weather tires with a mud/snow designation. Tread depth on all tires must be at least 3/16" regardless of vehicle type. Vehicles that do not meet these criteria must carry chain devices or alternative traction devices. The law focuses on passenger vehicles, as commercial vehicles have their own restrictions. It is unlawful to proceed when a state highway is closed or to proceed when a restriction is in effect without the required traction equipment. Violators will be given a citation, which comes with a $100 fine and $32 surcharge. That jumps to a $500 fine with a $156 surcharge if a violation results in the closure of one or more traffic lanes.

Code 16/Passenger Chain Law: All passenger vehicles need chains, except for 4WD and AWD vehicles with all-weather tires with 3/16 inch tread depth.
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