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Old 12-15-2020, 12:26 PM #31
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My coworker has a 4 door Wrangler with a mild lift and I think 33's. He is in his late 40's and was literally borrowing his parent's Honda Accord to shuttle his kids around to travel soccer games. He said the Jeep was that bad on the highway- noise, gas mileage, wear and tear, hard to keep in a straight line etc.
He gave it to his 17 year old and bought a new Subaru Crosstrek, mainly for the car like ride and gas mileage, and that it was sort of a wagon for decent cargo space (I thought it was very small inside).

The 4runner is predictable, reliable, good looking... not sexy or fast, but flat out gets the job done.
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All thanks for the comments so far. Keep them rolling. Don’t get me wrong I absolutely love my 4runner hence why I’ve kept it for 15 years and am considering a new one. I just want assurance that the new ones are every bit as well built and bulletproof as my 4th gen. I’ve heard some folks saying they aren’t what they used to be and that’s what I want to verify.

With regards to the engine and trans I don’t drive like a maniac nor am I expecting sports car performance. I just don’t want to try and get on the insane Texas entrance ramps and get rear ended trying to merge because this new Runner accelerates like a 4cyl Corolla.
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With regards to the engine and trans I don’t drive like a maniac nor am I expecting sports car performance. I just don’t want to try and get on the insane Texas entrance ramps and get rear ended trying to merge because this new Runner accelerates like a 4cyl Corolla.
The specs I've been able to find:

2005 V6 4runner 0-60: 7.3-7.6 seconds (I found lots of different info, V8 down toward 7.1)

2020 V6 4Runner 0-60: 7.5 seconds. The TRD Pro is a bit higher

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I loved my '10 TE as it looked great and did everything very well. Now I have a '20 ORP and it seems less comfortable (vinyl seats), is more sluggish, doesn't look as good as the pre-facelift Trail, and the Entune is terrible because of the high expectations I had vs. the old non-Entune system which actually worked well. I like it, but I don't love it. Almost daily I think about selling it and getting an older Land Cruiser. I guess I'm not a good convincer.
Out of curiosity, why did you sell your ‘10 TE?

And I agree, the early model trail 4runners look great. I wish Toyota kept the early rectangle lights and incorporated a more modern reflector . The headlight design seems more congruent with the rest of the blocky body lines.

With the pushed up approach angle of the current 5th gen, the damn thing looks like a catfish without trail/trd front bumper trim.

As for the OP, I love my ‘18 TRD. My previous car is from 2003 so I don’t miss any modern features. There will always be better technology so as long as my phone can connect i don’t care.
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The opinions of others never swayed my opinion of what I wanted.

So I'd say that if you can't come up with a reason to own a new 4Runner, then it's probably not for you.
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All thanks for the comments so far. Keep them rolling. Don’t get me wrong I absolutely love my 4runner hence why I’ve kept it for 15 years and am considering a new one. I just want assurance that the new ones are every bit as well built and bulletproof as my 4th gen. I’ve heard some folks saying they aren’t what they used to be and that’s what I want to verify.

With regards to the engine and trans I don’t drive like a maniac nor am I expecting sports car performance. I just don’t want to try and get on the insane Texas entrance ramps and get rear ended trying to merge because this new Runner accelerates like a 4cyl Corolla.
I live in Miami, arguably a city with one of the most a-hole drivers, and getting on the I-95, jumping between traffic, etc, has never been an issue regarding acceleration/power in the 4runner. The 4runner you have to smash the pedal more than what it seems most other cars have to.
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Out of curiosity, why did you sell your ‘10 TE?

And I agree, the early model trail 4runners look great. I wish Toyota kept the early rectangle lights and incorporated a more modern reflector . The headlight design seems more congruent with the rest of the blocky body lines.

With the pushed up approach angle of the current 5th gen, the damn thing looks like a catfish without trail/trd front bumper trim.

As for the OP, I love my ‘18 TRD. My previous car is from 2003 so I don’t miss any modern features. There will always be better technology so as long as my phone can connect i don’t care.
You saw the part about the '20 Rubicon? I got Jeep fever last year as I have owned many Jeeps. Bought what I thought was going to be my dream Jeep and then sold the '10 Trail. Mistake because a few months later I was unloading the Jeep and got back into a 4Runner. But as the old song goes, "If I could turn back time..."
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Do it but if would rather own a Ford Hyundai Jeep Land Rover be prepared to know your service manger by first name or would like to lose half of the value after 3 years do it
Or just buy the most capable trouble free ish most versatile vehicle available today do it
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even better = TRAIL Edition, which has the traditional 4WD transfer case handle on the floor (no silly button)
You know the front actuator is still controlled by a computer and is electronic, right? So yea the lever is cool, but it's not a manual system by any means.
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You saw the part about the '20 Rubicon? I got Jeep fever last year as I have owned many Jeeps. Bought what I thought was going to be my dream Jeep and then sold the '10 Trail. Mistake because a few months later I was unloading the Jeep and got back into a 4Runner. But as the old song goes, "If I could turn back time..."
I had the same jeep fever for about three days. What snapped me out of it was witnessing the infamous death wobble as a buddy was trying to keep up on the highway in his heavily modded JK. Nope!
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The specs I've been able to find:

2005 V6 4runner 0-60: 7.3-7.6 seconds (I found lots of different info, V8 down toward 7.1)

2020 V6 4Runner 0-60: 7.5 seconds. The TRD Pro is a bit higher

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Agreed. Data I've seen indicate that the 2005 is about 1/2 second slower to 60 than the current 4R. Regardless, they're close enough that nobody would notice. If you haven't been rear-ended on the Texas entrance ramps in your current 4Runner, then you're safe with a new one.

And how could anyone spend a decent amount of time on this forum and come to the conclusion that the current 4Runner has quality issues? Other than the petty gripes you find everywhere about this feature or that, I don't think I've seen anyone complain that their Gen5 is falling apart or is a piece of junk. And if there is someone, it's probably one unhappy person - certainly not multiple people.

So if you've had your 4Runner for 15 years, and "some people" say the new ones aren't what they used to be, and that's enough to move you to another vehicle, I say go for it. Your current 4Runner doesn't appear to have convinced you, and it's the best evidence you've got. I've seen people on here move to different vehicles for many reasons, but I don't believe I've ever seen someone make the switch due to quality complaints.
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If you ever have plans to mod anything, the current 4Runner is ideal - it's very adaptable and mod-able, there is a giant ecosystem of vendors that build everything you could ever want, and billions of forum posts and youtube videos that show you how to change anything you want to change. That's the a benefit of a design that doesn't get "refreshed" every 4 years.
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You know the front actuator is still controlled by a computer and is electronic, right? So yea the lever is cool, but it's not a manual system by any means.
As I understand it, "the manual stick is a direct connection to the transfer case, but the action locking the front axle into 4wd is still electronically actuated" (quoted from elsewhere). Is this what you mean?
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