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Old 12-30-2020, 03:59 AM #16
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Everyone else seems to want to turn their 4Runner into some off road tank looking beast just to drive to work every day. Why? A stock SR5 can handle more than most owners will ever even dream of trying.
Why? I'll tell you exactly why...

Cause its their vehicle to do what they want to, regardless of how you think or feel. No one gives two shïts if you like it or not. Freedom.. its fvckin great. Go suck an egg
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Exactly why I have no lift or fancy suspension or enormous tires. I put AT tires on mine and some rock sliders and that's it. I put this thing through pretty rough sand, snow and rocks without doing much to it all. Not a daily driver, I mainly use it for camping, trails, and playing in the snow. That trail at 12:20 -13:40 is in Sedona. I've done that one with my stock size AT tires and stock suspension. The guys in this video didn't even air down and were on the stock street tires!

Everyone else seems to want to turn their 4Runner into some off road tank looking beast just to drive to work every day. Why? A stock SR5 can handle more than most owners will ever even dream of trying.
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Why? I'll tell you exactly why...

Cause its their vehicle to do what they want to, regardless of how you think or feel. No one gives two shïts if you like it or not. Freedom.. its fvckin great. Go suck an egg
You seem super angry and defensive. I said nothing about about how I think or feel about others' trucks. I asked a question. I asked why.

Looks like I found the guy who put 10k into mods to make his truck look like it's a badass monster truck off road warrior, when it's really for his wife to drive to the grocery store.

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Because a little lift and some 33s makes a 5th gen look absolutly drop dead sexy while increasing its ability with very few drawbacks.
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hahahaha seriously hoping the insurance company never sees this ! oh my !
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Personally....I wouldnt n couldnt do this to a vehicle that i dont own...this is something i would expect from teenagers....
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In western Colorado, where I go "off road", all the Jeep trails are old (very old) mining and logging roads put in over a hundred years ago. They are all numbered county roads, "maintained" by the various county governments. Thus, there is no damage beyond what was initially done when the roads were put in by the mining and logging companies.
Mountain mining roads are a little different (not much). Doing laps in desert mud trashes the area. Nothing (well very little) gets maintained in SU. When it gets trashed they close it off, and takes forever to heal, if ever. Whatever the wind can fix, since no rain very little flora growth. Speaking of wind, you know what else is awesome, when someone take a shit and buries it in the desert, guess what happens? The wind blows, TP gets stuck in bushes, excrement dries out and rolls around the primitive campsites, forever.

Just saying, people should save shitty (rowdy, fun, reckless, whatever you want to call it) behavior for rec areas that limit the damage to smaller managed areas. You know, you use to be able to drive up to cardiff pass via big cottonwood in the wasatch, epic spring skiing... until people started making their own roads all over the valley bottom.
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I heard you can rent 4wd 4Runners from the dealership for around $40-60 a day. That's what my purist traveling buddy does
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I didn't think it was possible to rent an SUV for actual off-road use.
Just make sure to buy the LDW and hose it off before you turn it in.
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Mountain mining roads are a little different (not much). Doing laps in desert mud trashes the area. Nothing (well very little) gets maintained in SU. When it gets trashed they close it off, and takes forever to heal, if ever. Whatever the wind can fix, since no rain very little flora growth. Speaking of wind, you know what else is awesome, when someone take a shit and buries it in the desert, guess what happens? The wind blows, TP gets stuck in bushes, excrement dries out and rolls around the primitive campsites, forever.

Just saying, people should save shitty (rowdy, fun, reckless, whatever you want to call it) behavior for rec areas that limit the damage to smaller managed areas. You know, you use to be able to drive up to cardiff pass via big cottonwood in the wasatch, epic spring skiing... until people started making their own roads all over the valley bottom.
Well said.

I used to drive up Cardiff Fork. The mining road had been there for well over 100 years at that point. The last time I drove up there was in the early 90's, because as you mentioned it was closed shortly after due to morons tearing up the terrain, instead of just sticking to the long-established 4wd road.
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