To preface, I read through most of the separate Falken thread, but am not sure I could find the answer to this:

As I get closer to replacing the stock Nittos on my TRD Pro, I know I want to go with the Falken A/T3W's, but here's the issue:

I don't want to make any mods in terms of offsets or lifts-- at least not at this time. I'm good with some minor trimming up front if need be.
I also know that Falkens tend to run larger than other brands, meaning a 265 Falken will run closer to a 275 from another brand.

Having said that, I would prefer to go up to a 275/70/17. The issue is that it only comes as a LT C load tire, which adds quite a bit of weight over the standard P SL load.
I've had E load BFG KO2's, which were total overkill on my GX 460, and they were horrible for rain/hydroplane resistance. That was poor research on my part before getting them (in terms of learning about the differences in driving characteristics based on load).

I'm looking for on road manners, grip for wet roads, light snow, icy roads at times, and occasional light off roading ventures.
Hence, I know an E load tire is out.
The main question(s) are with respect to what if any advantage a 6 ply C load Falken offers over the P rated 4 ply SL.
It's my understanding that the P rated falken may be better for wet roads/traction than the LT versions, but I don't know that to be true.

I would l love to go bigger to the 275 over the 265, but not if the negatives (significant weight increase cost, minimal improvement in puncture protection, worse wet traction) outweigh the positives.
If I want the P rated Falken my options are stick with the stock 265 or go up to 285 on the smaller TRD Pro wheels, which I know many of you have done w/o issues, but have needed some light mods to do so. I think I would rather stick to the 265 or 275, at least for now.

Anyone who has had C rated 275's and are able to compare them to the P rated 265 SL's would be very helpful ........... based on the above considerations.

Took these specs from Falken's website:

Falken Wildpeak A/T3W
LT275/70 R17 - C Load
32.4" diameter, 57.1 lbs
11.1" tread width (8" rim)

Falken Wildpeak A/T3W
P265/70 R17 - SL load
31.7" diameter, 46.5 lbs
10.8" tread width (8" rim)

Seems like a big weight penalty for a 0.35 inch 'lift' and 0.3 inch wider tires. Wouldn't be worth it to me if I was only doing occasional light off-roading.

I'm in the same boat and have decided to not bother with the significant weight penalty of the 275 on an otherwise stock vehicle. Only thing I'm doing different is adding a 1" front level. If I were doing any fairly serious offroading I'd want 6 ply C load, but I won't be. Also, if I were doing any serious ofroading I'd be lifting and putting on a 285. Definitely don't want an E load.

For the minimal height/width difference I can't bring myself to justify the 10-13lbs per corner I'd be adding over my other tire choices. MPG is bad enough and I'm really enjoying how it's driving stock.

I'm willing to bet that if you put a truck with stock size 265s and a truck with 275s side by side it would be very difficult to tell any difference in appearance. For 10+ lbs a tire? no way man. The stock size Falkens already look WAY more beefy than the stock tires that come on these things...

I've got the stock size P metric Wildpeaks and love how they look and perform.

I have 265/70/17 AT3W’s on my 2020 ORP. They just clear the bottom of the fender at full lock. Any bigger and they would rub. I’d stick with that size if I were you. Plus, as you said, the weight penalty is significant on the 275’s.

Pretty sure Falken has a 30 day satisfaction guarantee with any authorized seller. You could always try the 275s and then swap them if they aren't working for you.

Replacing the Nitto Terra Grappler (original) on 2017 TRD Pro w/Toyo AT3 tomorrow. Sticking with the 265/70/17 SL version (Discount Tire). I decided to stick with standard size because I didn't want the various issues with a 285 (speedo, weight, rub etc..) in addition to my limited off road needs. Our off road is mostly mud based v. rocks. Also, I know its minor, but the stock wheel size of the TRD Pro is 7" I believe, so you can clearly fit a 285 on them, but I believe 7.5" wheels are recommended for a 285/70/r17 tire

The Nitto Terra Grappler has around 6/32 of tread left at 34K, but let me tell you they got really slick in the rain. In addition, they have gotten quite loud over the last year. I rotated every 5k, but I think there must be some scalloping going on. When I get to a stop light, you can pretty much feel the vibration from the scalloping. Inflation has been consistent at 35psi and wear across the tires showed fairly even. The outside edges show a bit of scalloping. Scalloping for me is where the outer lugs are not worn evenly.

Anyway, looking forward to the Toyo AT3s being installed tomorrow.

share some pics after the install-- maybe some before and after so we can see how the Falken 265's look c/w the stock Nitto's.
And yeah, the smaller diameter of the TRD pro wheels has been a much discussed topic on here with respect to whether 285's are ok, since they technically require a minimum of 7.5", as you pointed out. However, numerous members have put on 285's to the stock wheels with no issues, from what I understand.

However, the other reasons you mention for not needing 285's all make sense, and apply to me as well. It would really be for looks over function.

This thread is really helpful to me as well as I am about to take the same plunge.

I'm in this same boat but have a slightly different issue. I'm worried about offset.

I'm looking at 18x9 with either a +1 or -12 offset. Worried the -12 may stick out too far (though I Want a little) and the +1 will tuck under and look weak. I'm having hell finding wheels that'll fit the tires and not have a positive offset. I should mention I'm getting a 3" lift kit put on the 4Runner.

I'm looking at either a 275/65/18 or a 265. The ones I really like are the Falken ATIII, but the Nitto and the BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A K02 look good as well. We're on a rocky road and we get rain and snow, but we have a long drive there and don't want to be overwhelmed by noise.

I just really don't have a clue and don't want to sink 2,500 into a package I'll regret later. I want an aggressive look, good traction in rain and snow, and though it'll be taken off-road, I'm not running the Jeep Jamboree in it.

Do y'all have tire/wheel suggestions for that?

I REALLY appreciate any help you can give me. Thanks!

^ This may not be a popular opinion but imo 265s look undersized on a 5th gen 4Runner, even with ATs/MTs that are wider than stock with squared shoulders like the AT3s. The Wildpeaks in 275 look much larger and more aggressive than the 265s. It's a big 275.

^ I'm running 18x9 in positive offset with 275/65/18 Cooper ATs at the moment (previous owner installed), and they are ok but I'm waiting for my new wheels in 17x8.5 and am excited to ditch these. They do look pretty good, wheels are flush with fenders and don't rub when fully compressed offroad. Any specific reason you want 18's? I wouldn't recommend 18's or a 9" wide wheel. Negative offset will increase likelihood of rubbing.

Honestly, it's what the guy at the off-road shop said to go with when I told him about the terrain. I was going to go with 20s but couldn't find a tire that would work with it so he said to go down to 18s, with the 275s. I'm getting a 3 inch lift so I think the rubbing might be mitigated by that. OR so I hope.

Thanks for the tips!! If I can ask, why are you going down to 17s? Better for the off-road aspect?

17's have more sidewall and more tire options available. I suppose in theory 18's might be better on-road. Fwiw there are no 18" stock wheels on any 4Runner trim.

Some threads that might be helpful if you haven't seen them yet:

https://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/156378-going-bigger-5th-gen-tire-fitment-guide.html

https://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/219211-5th-gen-4runner-will-my-tires-285%C2%92s-rub-here-some-things-consider.html

Install completed today of the Toyo AT3 265/70/17 SL. I watched them do the balancing and all tires/wheels didn't take much weight at all, so was happy about that. I'll get some pics, but I can tell you the look didn't really change much, just happy to get rid of the original Nitto TG.

They aired up to 38PSI, ride and noise changes were immediately noticeable. There is a low AT tire sound as you would expect (as compared to road tire). Very significant reduction in tire noise from the Nittos. Also, the vibration is gone when I come to a slow/stop. With the Nitto's I had that wheel shake at 60mph or so, it really wasn't bad, but was present. Yep, tried the wheel balancing, alignment etc.. I just think those Nitto's have/had some issues.

So far, the 60mph shake is gone and am very happy with the immediate/noticeable improvements, but time will tell.

after a lot of reading on here I went with 265/70/17 stock size Falken but the tire shop had a hell of time getting them not to shimmy between 55-60 mph so after few visits back to the shop to get it right they upgrade or trade it out to Goodyear Duratrac very happy with them they appear way bigger than stock size. I also lost about 20-25 miles per tank full with AT tires
the blue rig next to me has Falken on the same rims so you can see the difference

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