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Old 06-15-2021, 08:19 PM #16
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Theoretically speaking, fog pattern lights should be mounted as low as possible. As you've already discovered, mounting them higher makes correct aiming next to impossible.

Driving pattern lights can be mounted higher with fewer ill effects. I might recommend just swapping the BD lights to the higher positions and the DD lights to the lower ones to get the maximum effect. You will lose some width on the fog pattern though because of the recessed mounting.

Remember also that the DD SS3's have a completely road legal beam pattern, but the BD Squadrons do not.
This X2, put the DD SAE fogs in the fog position and they'll work better than up higher, easier to aim, more light where you want it.

The fogs seem to do a great job of filling in where the other beam is blocked width wise, complimenting each other nicely.
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Theoretically speaking, fog pattern lights should be mounted as low as possible. As you've already discovered, mounting them higher makes correct aiming next to impossible.

Driving pattern lights can be mounted higher with fewer ill effects. I might recommend just swapping the BD lights to the higher positions and the DD lights to the lower ones to get the maximum effect. You will lose some width on the fog pattern though because of the recessed mounting.

Remember also that the DD SS3's have a completely road legal beam pattern, but the BD Squadrons do not.
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This X2, put the DD SAE fogs in the fog position and they'll work better than up higher, easier to aim, more light where you want it.

The fogs seem to do a great job of filling in where the other beam is blocked width wise, complimenting each other nicely.
I definitely agree with both of y'all. Unfortunately I opted for the square bezel so it may not fit in the housing. I'm not opposed to running it how it currently is. Who knows, may look into a different lens sooner than later
I usually only run the yellows if it's raining bad and more. Just used to treating it how it is with my BD fogs.
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The other thing that may be making it impossible to properly aim your fogs is the "shelf" in the bumper that the fogs currently sit on. If it's too deep and the fogs are mounted too far back on it, this will prevent the beam from shining downward at all. Just a thought.
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Thoughts on Amber Sport vs Pro

So the Pro in white was way too bright. Here in NY, there is some talk about cracking down on excessively nright lights, so I am going to take opportunity to switch to amber lights. I will repurpose the white lights as ditch lights and retrofit them with the square bezels.

But I wanted to get some feedback from the group about amber lights - sport vs pro? My use is primarily using on the roads in Catskills, NY area. Higher elevation with fog throughout the year. Deer and other animal running across the road is a constant hazard here.

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So the Pro in white was way too bright. Here in NY, there is some talk about cracking down on excessive lights, so I am going to take opportunity to switch to amber lights. I will repurpose the white lights as ditch lights and retrofit them with the square bezels.

But I wanted to get some feedback from the group about amber lights - sport vs pro? My use is primarily using on the roads in Catskills, NY area. Higher elevation with fog throughout the year. Deer and other animal running across the road is a constant hazard here.
Real world experience and recommendations from upstate NY. The Pro is brighter than the Sport, but the pattern is not as well defined. Said another way, the flat, horizontal pattern is taller. What this will lead to is better lighting, but the possibility of bothering more oncoming drivers. Properly aimed, this will be a minor problem.

The Sports have a very well defined beam pattern and put out an amazing amount of light - especially for the money. If you like to run your fogs all the time, these are the only way to fly. Again, they have to be aimed properly.

I'm currently running the Selective Yellow Max fogs in my 4Runner and absolutely love them. The output is amazing and they rarely bother oncoming drivers. (I don't run them all the time though.) Aim is really critical with these.
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So the Pro in white was way too bright. Here in NY, there is some talk about cracking down on excessive lights, so I am going to take opportunity to switch to amber lights. I will repurpose the white lights as ditch lights and retrofit them with the square bezels.

But I wanted to get some feedback from the group about amber lights - sport vs pro? My use is primarily using on the roads in Catskills, NY area. Higher elevation with fog throughout the year. Deer and other animal running across the road is a constant hazard here.
I have the fog amber sports. I also have the Pro SS3 ditch which i'll use for a pseudo comparison. The sport fogs provide solid coverage both forward and past the 90 degree angle. I live out in the country with a lot of deer and other animals that love to run around on the roads and can confidently say that the sport model provides a lot of clarity for this specific purpose.

The Pro SS3 ditch in amber are powerful.. sometimes too powerful. I have toyed with the idea of upgrading to pro for the fogs until I put on my ditch lights. I think for me.. the pro fogs would be too bright and almost reduce some visibility if there are trees/bushes or other objects that may reflect the light. The sport is bright enough yet not too bright. If that makes sense. And as said above, the sports aren't causing issue for oncoming drivers. And I run the fogs whenever my low beams are on. They just look so damn cool.
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I have a set of amber fogs sitting on the table waiting to get installed. I just need to wait 5-7 more weeks to get my arm out of a sling and range of motion to install them. The sale is really good.
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I still have the SAE fog PRO's in yellow from my 4Runner, they don't fit in my new vehicle sadly, so they are available if anyone is looking, they were in my 4Runner for about 6 months, like new condition.

I loved them when I was using them, amazing output, lights the ditches up like daytime, which was great for watching for wildlife while in rural areas.
I’m looking. How much you want for them?
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Thanks for the feedback folks. Opted for the amber sport. It sounds like that is plenty good enough due to its excellent engineering and design. As someone mentioned here. I too found the white Pro too bright as some of the light scattered back, even with it aiming downward.
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Thanks for the feedback folks. Opted for the amber sport. It sounds like that is plenty good enough due to its excellent engineering and design. As someone mentioned here. I too found the white Pro too bright as some of the light scattered back, even with it aiming downward.
Nice choice. My wife summarized them best as I followed her sports-car on a short road trip:

“Distinctive, bright as hell but not annoying.”

(If only she described me that way)
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