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Old 01-14-2021, 04:29 PM #1
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2020+ TPMS sensors. What is the deal?
I am interesting in CLONING them OEM's.
No shops want to guarantee a "no light" situation with some saying they are different and their software is not up-to-date.

I want to keep the feature, not bypass, as it is one I actually appreciate.
If you added a second set of wheels and cloned the OEM, which sensors and tool did you use?

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Just went through this with my '21...

They are the same TPMS sensors as before, you can order generic. You can either clone them or just buy new sensor and scan them then load into your ecu.

I used the ATEQ Quickset X to do it and it was straightforward. Most shops do not have a TPMS tool that speak to the 20-21 yet. You don't have to clone if you buy the ATEQ. You can load it into the ECU and it automatically identifies and recognizes each corner.

Contrary to popular belief, the ECU will not magically find new TPMS that aren't cloned. You need to load the ID's into the ECU.
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Tanks, bud!

Could I correctly assume you are running two sets of wheels?

Is the ATEQ tool limited to ONLY their sensors?

Any info on the sensors you chose?
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Just went through this with my '21...

They are the same TPMS sensors as before, you can order generic. You can either clone them or just buy new sensor and scan them then load into your ecu.

I used the ATEQ Quickset X to do it and it was straightforward. Most shops do not have a TPMS tool that speak to the 20-21 yet. You don't have to clone if you buy the ATEQ. You can load it into the ECU and it automatically identifies and recognizes each corner.

Contrary to popular belief, the ECU will not magically find new TPMS that aren't cloned. You need to load the ID's into the ECU.
I just put on winter tires with all new sensors in my 2020 Limited and the "learn" feature detected them all within 15 minutes of driving. Hooked up Techstream and confirmed it had all the right IDs. (You do have to turn on the detect new sensors feature through the dash menu)
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Tanks, bud!

Could I correctly assume you are running two sets of wheels?

Is the ATEQ tool limited to ONLY their sensors?

Any info on the sensors you chose?
No issue swapping at all and the ATEQ system will read anything compatible frequency wise. The AUTEL toolsets require their tools, but you can clone easily with them.

I don't think you need to clone though, if you get your own tool it takes 1-2 minutes to do the swap and then your 4Runner corrects itself before you are even out of the neighborhood.
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I just put on winter tires with all new sensors in my 2020 Limited and the "learn" feature detected them all within 15 minutes of driving. Hooked up Techstream and confirmed it had all the right IDs. (You do have to turn on the detect new sensors feature through the dash menu)
Were they Toyota OEM TPMS sensors? I've not seen this work on any of them so far. I've now done this on 8 or 9 20+ 4Runners. I don't think any of them were OEM Toyota (not that it should matter as far as I know)

On my personal rig, it went into the learning sequence and never picked them up over 75 miles of driving. Bought the ATEQ and fixed it in minutes. I guess I'm just not sure why some have problems and others dont?
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No issue swapping at all and the ATEQ system will read anything compatible frequency wise. The AUTEL toolsets require their tools, but you can clone easily with them.

I don't think you need to clone though, if you get your own tool it takes 1-2 minutes to do the swap and then your 4Runner corrects itself before you are even out of the neighborhood.


Perfect.
Now... Link the sensors you used.

That way, if I have an issue, you might be able to help!
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I just put on winter tires with all new sensors in my 2020 Limited and the "learn" feature detected them all within 15 minutes of driving. Hooked up Techstream and confirmed it had all the right IDs. (You do have to turn on the detect new sensors feature through the dash menu)

I am trying to avoid using a laptop.
Can you post up your Techstream source though?
For future reference.

I read some get bad stuff from Amazon.
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Were they Toyota OEM TPMS sensors? I've not seen this work on any of them so far. I've now done this on 8 or 9 20+ 4Runners. I don't think any of them were OEM Toyota (not that it should matter as far as I know)

On my personal rig, it went into the learning sequence and never picked them up over 75 miles of driving. Bought the ATEQ and fixed it in minutes. I guess I'm just not sure why some have problems and others dont?
They were Denso (Pacific) sensors, same as OEM.
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I am trying to avoid using a laptop.
Can you post up your Techstream source though?
For future reference.

I read some get bad stuff from Amazon.
Amazon.com: VXDIAG VCX Nano Diagnose and Programming Tool Compatible with J2534: Automotive

Other cables work to program some things, but won't program sensors (will read them). The VXDIAG works great and comes with Techstream (hacked copy like every other version out there). Been using it for a couple years now.
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Amazon.com: VXDIAG VCX Nano Diagnose and Programming Tool Compatible with J2534: Automotive

Other cables work to program some things, but won't program sensors (will read them). The VXDIAG works great and comes with Techstream (hacked copy like every other version out there). Been using it for a couple years now.
Danke!

This is what I was looking at
Amazon.com: DIAGKING Mini Vci J2534 TIS Techstream Diagnostic Cable for Toyota Firmware V1.4.1: Automotive

Then you see what looks to be the same for less $$$ with bad reviews.
Amazon.com: Jugger Mini Vci J2534 Cable for Toyota able Connector Scanner Adapter for Toyota TIS Techstream, 16pin Programming Diagnostic Cable TIS Techstream OBD2 USB Cable for Win XP/ WIN7 32bits: Automotive
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When I bought a set of knockoff wheels OEWheels (great replicas BTW) bought some tpms from them & claim they're Toy . IDK but they worked when we cloned them to truck never had a problem yet !
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When I bought a set of knockoff wheels OEWheels (great replicas BTW) bought some tpms from them & claim they're Toy . IDK but they worked when we cloned them to truck never had a problem yet !

For what is listed in your sig?
Apparently shops are having issues with 2020+
As was stated above, they may just need software updates.
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Yep, avoid those. They work for many features, but not TMPS. I bought two just like those and junked them.
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