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Old 01-18-2021, 03:53 PM #16
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In case doubters arrive about Redline...
1. Product.
2. Product in a smooth wall fountain drink cup.
3. Product in same cup with the same pattern on the side almost 20 minutes later.

(There were a few drops of water in the cup as I had just rinsed it out to show you all)





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Now, what I honestly hate about Redline...
The price. But I suck it up as their stuff never let me down.
Water Wetter, SI-1 Fuel system cleaner (which only Chevron Techron Concentrate is a close comparison w/ PEA leavels) 5w40, 15w40, Heavy Shockproof, MTL, MT-90, ATF, Break-in additive... I think that is all I really use.

I wish I could be a "dealer" like they do with Amsoil.
Everyone can be an Amsoil dealer... they store product in your house, you do the marketing and constantly talk it up and do legwork of shipping...
Pretty clever how MLM works, huh?
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50 minutes after the original cup photo.

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Annnnd just about 2 hours later...


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I use Valvoline, front, t-case, rear, 75W90. Amsoil scored the highest marks on a gear oil test I have, it's about 10 years old, Mobil 1 was a distant second, Valvoline was mid-pack. Royal Purple and Lucas brought up the rear out of 14 tested. Redline was 5th.
I would use Amsoil but not going to pay their price or become a dealer.
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I use Valvoline, front, t-case, rear, 75W90. Amsoil scored the highest marks on a gear oil test I have, it's about 10 years old, Mobil 1 was a distant second, Valvoline was mid-pack. Royal Purple and Lucas brought up the rear out of 14 tested. Redline was 5th.
I would use Amsoil but not going to pay their price or become a dealer.


Can you post it up?
I am curious to see what exactly was tested.
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Can you post it up?
I am curious to see what exactly was tested.
You will have to try and pull it up from internet.
"Results of Gear Oil ASTM & Military Tests" September 2007
It was extensive.
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You will have to try and pull it up from internet.
"Results of Gear Oil ASTM & Military Tests" September 2007
It was extensive.


Is this it?
http://www.syntheticwarehouse.com/br...lube_study.pdf
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What a surprise. An 'advertisement' by Amsoil, rates Amsoil best...
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I have a few problems right off the bat.

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AMSOIL Drivetrain Division September 2007 AMSOIL INC

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Dave Leitten works for Amsoil.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-leitten-9b569b50

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Kevin Dinwiddie works for Amsoil.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-dinwiddie-51961512

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What a surprise. An 'advertisement' by Amsoil, rates Amsoil best...



Whoda thunk it.
This is why I won't mess with them anymore.
I am not a fan of deception.


In fact, any tests that put Amsoil above all else, first thing I check are names and such.
I won't waste time reading until I know WHO is behind the "test".
You live and you learn.
I was one who learned the hard way.
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Whoda thunk it.
This is why I won't mess with them anymore.
I am not a fan of deception.


In fact, any tests that put Amsoil above all else, first thing I check are names and such.
I won't waste time reading until I know WHO is behind the "test".
You live and you learn.
I was one who learned the hard way.
Here’s a guy who tests motor oils and is not an Amsoil employee. He documents results in a long blog that’s not indexed so you have to search around.
He tested a limited selection of gear oils, infotunately not Redline. But Amsoil 75-140 came out on top.

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I'm still laughing at this..

https://www.toyota-4runner.org/3585699-post484.html
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Here’s a guy who tests motor oils and is not an Amsoil employee. He documents results in a long blog that’s not indexed so you have to search around.
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1. Testing methods?
2. Why won't he sign his real name?
3. Why is he seemingly obsessed with "views"?
4. I am not even going into the rest.



And we can go into startup times, vs long distance and you want something different for each. If you are like a UPS driver shutting your vehicle down many times a day you want something that flows, vs a long-hauler with something that "sticks" a little better at operating temps...
Hence why different climates call for different specs, ignoring EPA/CAFE standards.


I mean, this guy films his experiments, and gets A LOT more views than "540RAT"





BUT, it is a free market.
We all use what floats our boats, right?
Torco/Neo were not easy to get, Redline is.
Guess what I use to not jump thru hoops and deal with marketing hype of "dealers" that wanted Amsoil cheap for themselves...
Been there, done that.
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Here’s a guy who tests motor oils and is not an Amsoil employee. He documents results in a long blog that’s not indexed so you have to search around.
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I am certainly no expert on the subject, but a lot of people on the bitog forum regard him as a quack/shill, etc, and his results junk science.
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