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Old 02-05-2021, 04:10 PM #46
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can't tell, i'd need to have a taste test first. My taste buds have evolved though thousands of years of evolution, to where I can now perceive the freshness of oil with just by taste alone.
covid might've dampened your tasting abilities.. so we cant go off that anymore
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covid might've dampened your tasting abilities.. so we cant go off that anymore
naw man..the gubberment says to wear a diaper on my face and i be safe...gubberment says it call science...goberment says they put patient zero blood in me n i be cured for good.... goberment take my monies because they say i don't need it....

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Is this the 1st oil change for your T4R? If it is, looks for broken/stripped skid plate bolts, oil spills near around the oil fill cap and valve cover, and oil underneath your engine? Toyota dealer oil changes usually result in one or all of these things.
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Hello ladies and gentlemen. Quick question, does this oil look fresh for having a few hundred miles on it? Dealer just did an oil change. Level a bit high too.

How many total miles? Toyota Care?
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To answer your question with zero snark, no.

Until recently I farmed out fluid changes to the dealership and after the oil change I would always make sure they didn’t overfill it or underfill, without fail they would overfill it.

Brand new synthetic oil from the Toyota dealership is notoriously invisible and you can barely see it on the dipstick. Like clear.

Towards the end of the oil‘s life, you can very easily see it on the dipstick.

So the answer is: no, that is not fresh oil. That is absolutely not fresh oil.

That is oil somewhere 1/2 to 2/3 into its life.

They didn’t change your oil. They lied to you.

There is a slim possibility they didn’t change the oil filter and there is enough oil inside the filter canister to taint your oil… But usually people do both, not one or the other. If it is a brand new car, you should see markings on the oil canister if they accessed it.
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i've been replacing my oil every 10000 miles for 15 years now and i can tell the oil wasn't changed.

or maybe they did but did not replace the filter.

when i change my oil, after the oil change, i could not even see what level the oil was. in addition to that, i drain the oil for 1 hour so all remaining oil could drain out.

in a quick change oil change, what they do is remove the oil, once it's no longer draining fast, they seal it back up and a lot of oil is still in the engine.



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I don't think it's easy to tell one way or the other, based on color alone.

There are too many variables that affect color of the oil such as # starts/stops, op temperatures reached, type of additives (some change color faster/deeper than others), soot or other stuff that gets by piston rings or the air filter, to name a few.
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The 4R has less than 5k miles on it and this was its first (and unexpected) oil change. And I just double checked, only put 100 miles on that oil in the picture.
Even if they didn’t change the oil and just topped it off, OP says he has less than 5K miles his rig. That’s pretty dark for having less than 5K miles total. I’ve seen oil drained from my rig with about 10K miles that’s lighter than the oil in the picture in the first post.

OP, any updates from the dealer? Did you have them change out the oil in front of you?
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So lets get back on topic.
If your trucks oil tastes like your scrotum then its probably not automotive oil.

Thats what I would do.

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No idea. But if you are that interested you could ask this guy. He's the one that brought it up...
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Seems like good customer service and your answer to get a peace of mind. I would then start doing your own service if you can. But I do realize, some people are not capable due to disabilities or apartment complexes not allowing vehicle maintenance in the parking spaces which is unfortunate.

Here is my oil after exactly 3,202 miles since its last change back in July with SuperTech 0W-20. Still looks pretty clean to me.

Edit: also forgot to mention that my rig has over 94K miles.
Hey! Yes, it was really great customer service. They brought me back to meet the tech and offered to let me watch the process. I don't know what occurred originally but they all tried to fix the situation at hand. I appreciate the photo.

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He may be actually telling the truth... and I am not trying to defend dealership at all… as I being doing oil changes on all my cars for the past 30 + years and definitely recommend doing it by yourself, but the darker oil could be simply a "side effect" of how “fast” oil changes are done at the dealer and especially at all "quick" oil change places…

As we know, you can’t drain all oil regardless of how long you keep drain plug open, but when the whole oil change process takes 10-15 minutes it is very possible that as soon as oil stops “dumping” from the drain the tech puts oil plug back in… therefore leaving a good amount of “old” oil in the engine… consequently you see darker oil… just my $.02
Thanks for the reply. I am thinking that may have been the case, but I can't be sure. I think they just pulled the drain plug for "long enough" and refilled. Appreciate the feedback.

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Even if they didn’t change the oil and just topped it off, OP says he has less than 5K miles his rig. That’s pretty dark for having less than 5K miles total. I’ve seen oil drained from my rig with about 10K miles that’s lighter than the oil in the picture in the first post.

OP, any updates from the dealer? Did you have them change out the oil in front of you?
They changed the oil again. Drove around the block and showed me the oil from the dipstick and it wasn't clear. Who knows if he was just covering his back, but he did go further than expected to make me happy about the situation.
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This is from the 2016-2019 Toyota Repair Manual.

Assuming there is no oil consumption between oil change intervals, this says there should be 1.5 quarts of old oil remaining in the engine if you drain the oil without changing the oil filter. If you drain the oil and replace the oil filter, there should be 0.9 quarts of old oil remaining in the engine. If true, seems kind of pointless to let it drain until every last drop comes out.
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This is from the 2016-2019 Toyota Repair Manual.

Assuming there is no oil consumption between oil change intervals, this says there should be 1.5 quarts of old oil remaining in the engine if you drain the oil without changing the oil filter. If you drain the oil and replace the oil filter, there should be 0.9 quarts of old oil remaining in the engine. If true, seems kind of pointless to let it drain until every last drop comes out.
Very interesting, thanks for that.
With every oil change interval you’re always mixing some old with the new. Kind of a homeopathic dilution LOL.
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This is from the 2016-2019 Toyota Repair Manual.

Assuming there is no oil consumption between oil change intervals, this says there should be 1.5 quarts of old oil remaining in the engine if you drain the oil without changing the oil filter. If you drain the oil and replace the oil filter, there should be 0.9 quarts of old oil remaining in the engine. If true, seems kind of pointless to let it drain until every last drop comes out.
Thank you for that information. Very interesting.
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