They are like $80. I think the $538 is if you buy every led replacement light for your 4Runner they sell.


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Ah good call I was confused when I saw this. They look to be $175 though which is still ridiculous.




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I did read the Tacoma World thread, but my experience is the same in every other respect.

I also got the backup and trunk lights. I'll write a review on those when I can. I broke my thumb this week, and typing is a little hard. The trunk lights are out of this world, though!

Have you tried buying a cheap lux meter from a hardware store to confirm that they're dimmer than the stock halogen bulbs?

In all the reading I did, this line of thinking was used by someone representing a company... selling their solution.

Bottomline is no two if us have the same driving conditions, which has RARELY been part of any discussion. I live in a downtown but travel to remote NM and CO monthly. My needs are unique compared to many who live and work in suburbia.

To each their own as long as its safe for you and others.

Ahhhh yes. My annual Lasfit LED update. Still working great and still very happy with them. No innocent woman and children have been sent to their deaths from blindness yet, so I got that going for me. Which is nice.

I installed plug n play LED headlight bulbs from a recommendation in the Xterra forum in my Xterra not long after I bought it as the stock halogen headlights were close to worthless. It is well known in the Xterra circles that the stock headlights are bad. I noticed an immediate difference when I turned on the headlights. I never had anyone flick their lights at me for what that is worth.

Climate changers always claim the science as if it’s fact.

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I read the lighting scientist’s blog or article on Jalopnik:

As Stern elaborated: “One big difficulty is that what we feel like we’re seeing isn’t what we’re actually seeing. The human visual system is a lousy judge of how well it’s doing. ‘I know what I can see,’ seems reasonable, but it doesn’t square up with reality because we humans are just not well equipped to accurately evaluate how well or poorly we can see (or how well or poorly a headlamp works). Our subjective impressions tend to be very far out of line with objective, real measurements of how well we can (or can’t) see.”

I read this out loud to my lawyer wife. We couldn’t stop laughing. Then later in the article, Stern starts pimping specific LED housings and we laughed even harder.

I installed the LasFits on my wife’s 2014 SR5 because she suddenly felt the OEM halogen lights were deficient compared to the OEM LED lights on her 2023. I can say without question the LasFits are even superior to the 2023. This whole premise of Stern that drivers will focus on the better lit foreground at the expense of distance focus is complete bullshit. When you are driving in rural areas loaded with deer and elk, you focus as far ahead as possible and the LasFit LEDs provide far more distance vision than the OEM halogens. Oh and we have yet to be flashed by oncoming drivers.

Stop listening to the internet bullshitters. They are lying, while at the same time pimping products they have done work for.

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Going on 3 years now I wonder how Tory is doing.

I still haven't been flashed. The combo with my DD SS3 Amber fogs is a winner for daily driving.

"bruh..you should have went with diode dynamics and OEM headlights and you have to buy my wiring harness bruh.....

Let me show you the data i collected from shining lights on my garage wall bro ...."


probably a post something along those lines.

Pedro, i am glad you are back with an update. Thanks, i got a good chuckle out of this thread front to back. I too have read and heard all sorts of nannie stuff about headlights over the years and yes i can totally agree with some aspects of the nay'sayers because i have experienced some of the downfalls BUT i figured out how to work around them.

Example, i have a 2008 4runner (4th gen) with the factory projector headlights. I put HIDs in them years ago, probably like 2014-2015ish maybe when the HID headlight craze was all abuzz. First, it was much brighter up close as most claim, but wasnt brighter down range. The HID headlights didnt have the same prong design as the OEM headlight, you could twist the bulb and click it in place in 3 different positions. I had the light lit up and twisted the bulb to unlock, and was going to pull the bulb out and twist it over 120 degrees and reposition and install again and as i pulled the bulb OUT of the projector i noticed the light changed drastically, got MUCH more focused down range and was TONS better. I thought, son of a beesh, the HID arc is too far into the projector and not allowing the projector to focus.
I went on a fix, and used a soldering iron to heat the 3 prongs on the headlight and bend them down, so i could stack 2 thick o-rings on the base of the light to position the HID bulb further outward when it clicked in the housing. This worked and made the light 5000% better. A few years later a guy asked me about some new LEDs with adjustable tips on them, you can loosen an allen wrench and adjust the LEDs further inward or outward to focus them in projectors. The guy was Royal T lighting, i bought those LED bulbs somewhere around 2019 and have been running them since. This 2008 is my daily driver and the LED bulbs he sold me are absolutely fantastic and i have never had a single minute of problem, they are focused perfectly, they are bright, and the color is great.

Some people are not smart enough to figure out, the reason all these aftermarket bulbs dont do perfect, is because the housing was not actually designed to run that length of bulb and they need to move the bulb inward or outward to get the actual light, positioned perfectly in the focal point of the housing or projector. Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you see jackasses with old cat eye chevrolet and HID bulbs in low beams blinding the absolute sheet out of everyone, with their no-cutoff HID bulb in open housings.

Don't forget to mention Lux numbers like 478 times.