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Old 06-15-2021, 02:01 AM #76
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I've got both (kinda). 2017 TRD Pro and 2020 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon both setup with a RTT and fridge. I have also had a Tacoma and a Wrangler (both older).

I have taken the 4Runner on several trails around Ouray, and Moab in stock form. The Gladiator is on 37s, not out of necessity, but because I can. Rubicons can generally fit 35s no lift, or 37s on a 2" lift, no other mods. The 4R has definitely impressed me more than once, but it's not as confidence inspiring as a Jeep on the trails. Both are plenty reliable at this point. If you're interested in a manual, at least Jeep gives you the option. You said your prime focus is off road capability, which means Jeep end of story. If I'm being honest, I am biased, and if I could only pick one, it'd be Jeep.




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I've got both (kinda). 2017 TRD Pro and 2020 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon both setup with a RTT and fridge. I have also had a Tacoma and a Wrangler (both older).

I have taken the 4Runner on several trails around Ouray, and Moab in stock form. The Gladiator is on 37s, not out of necessity, but because I can. Rubicons can generally fit 35s no lift, or 37s on a 2" lift, no other mods. The 4R has definitely impressed me more than once, but it's not as confidence inspiring as a Jeep on the trails. Both are plenty reliable at this point. If you're interested in a manual, at least Jeep gives you the option. You said your prime focus is off road capability, which means Jeep end of story. If I'm being honest, I am biased, and if I could only pick one, it'd be Jeep.




Thanks for this! Great photo’s as well. Yes a solid front axle is SO confidence inspiring and as I began my wheeling in a 40, I miss that “feel” in the rocks that you only get with the solid front axle. How does one upload pics, have not been able to do that. Thanks again.
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I have considered this. But already having two FJ40’s one restored, the other in the process, I don’t want to restore any more vehicles. That said I feel the 80 is the best Overland Vehicle one can buy here in USA. Needed something newer and more reliable. Rubicon Umlimited JL with an Ursa Minor top is very appealing. Not waiting for Yota to remove its head from its #ss and offer a solid front axle 4X4 here stateside. I have driven the Rubicon, less body roll on pavement and feels peppier than my Pro. I was impressed with its on pavement ride.
Oh man, so I must have misunderstood initially. If you're primary focus is off-road and you enjoy driving something fun, Rubicon all the way!

Adding an Ursa top is my dream. As soon as mine is paid off, that money is going aside just for that, especially for more solo travel. I assume you've watched venture4wd's youtube channel then where he travels all around North America with his JKUR and Ursa.

4.10s with the 3.6L (mine's an auto) is quite peppy and, as I said earlier, has been reliable so far. Even the venture4wd and theroadchoseme guys say the same exact thing.
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Thanks for this! Great photo’s as well. Yes a solid front axle is SO confidence inspiring and as I began my wheeling in a 40, I miss that “feel” in the rocks that you only get with the solid front axle. How does one upload pics, have not been able to do that. Thanks again.


You can attach photos on your post if you scroll below the "submit reply" button (on a computer) and click "manage attachments". I host on flickr, then post over here using the image URL. You have to put "[img]" in front of your URL, then "[/img]" at the end of it, no spaces. If you're on mobile you can upload directly from the Tapatalk app.

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Oh man, so I must have misunderstood initially. If you're primary focus is off-road and you enjoy driving something fun, Rubicon all the way!

Adding an Ursa top is my dream. As soon as mine is paid off, that money is going aside just for that, especially for more solo travel. I assume you've watched venture4wd's youtube channel then where he travels all around North America with his JKUR and Ursa.

4.10s with the 3.6L (mine's an auto) is quite peppy and, as I said earlier, has been reliable so far. Even the venture4wd and theroadchoseme guys say the same exact thing.
Yep. Totally with you on this. Ursa Minor on top makes it an almost unstoppable adventure vehicle. I think Shontz; Venture 4WD has like 150K miles on his with the 3.6L. I think with proper maintenance and not doing stupid abusive things to them they can be quite reliable.
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I had 4 JK's. 2 with transmission problems. 1 with 4 water pumps. And one with death wobble. All before 20K miles. After experiencing death wobble I have no desire to get another Jeep.
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