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Old 03-25-2021, 10:12 PM #31
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That's always a tough battle with the mid and tweeter so far apart. I think the Audio Frog GS25 would be a perfect fit in your setup. They sound very good and make bringing your stage up so easy.

I say that because the guy the guy I off-road with has the same 6x9s you have with the GS25 and GS10 up high. He is also subless currently. It's the system I heard that got me back into the hobby and got me into DSPs.

You can download Jazzi's spreadsheet at Car Audio Junkies where my build thread is. It exports text files you load into your tuning software. You can also download the Audio Frog curve in different formats from their site.

What are your plans for the next stage once you get the tuning finalized on the front stage? Definitely following the whole build.

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Old 03-25-2021, 10:35 PM #32
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Another tip that may work...I noticed above, you were using a 6db slope on the tweeters. I seem to have better results with 12 and 24db slopes when trying to cross tweeters lower. That can bring the stage up a bit but, can also sharpen the transition to the mid. Maybe a more experienced tuner can provide better advice but, it would hurt to play around with steeper slopes and see what the results are.
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That's always a tough battle with the mid and tweeter so far apart. I think the Audio Frog GS25 would be a perfect fit in your setup. They sound very good and make bringing your stage up so easy.

I say that because the guy the guy I off-road with has the same 6x9s you have with the GS25 and GS10 up high. He is also subless currently. It's the system I heard that got me back into the hobby and got me into DSPs.

You can download Jazzi's spreadsheet at Car Audio Junkies where my build thread is. It exports text files you load into your tuning software. You can also download the Audio Frog curve in different formats from their site.

What are your plans for the next stage once you get the tuning finalized on the front stage? Definitely following the whole build.
I’m not sure I’ll take it much further, adding a 2.5” would mean doing something custom with the tweeter and possibly having to go to a 1” format for better sound... if anything I’ll ditch the stock HU once I feel the need to step it up in quality... maybe switch to GB60. The 10” sub I got works for now, but I might build a sealed box to see how I like it.

I’m definitely going to look into these tuning files I need some guidance. I’m currently using LR 24 slopes at crossover points, but trying a 6db roll off up high like in the AF curve.

Glad to hear you’re back in the game ��
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Old 03-26-2021, 09:28 AM #34
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Yeah, I went back to the top of the thread after posting and saw the tweeter mounts. I also saw the sub listed but didn't realize you had it running yet. How did you install your enclosure? I have some 10W1's laying around and thinking of doing one of those in the corner pocket.
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Yeah, I went back to the top of the thread after posting and saw the tweeter mounts. I also saw the sub listed but didn't realize you had it running yet. How did you install your enclosure? I have some 10W1's laying around and thinking of doing one of those in the corner pocket.
It’s a prefab slot port design on the same axis as the driver, I have it facing the rear of the vehicle on the driver side, it’s not gonna kick you in the back, but it has good low extension and provides sufficient volume... for the price I couldn’t pass it up
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I've been talking to Smitty via PM but I thought I'd intrude a bit on you thread as you're doing a lot what I wanted to do. I did just drop in an AudioFrog GS25 and it brought the soundstage up, and much clearer without doing anything else. Though I may try to fit a tweeter in the same location but would have to cut away the factory grill and cover it in grill cloth.

Loving your thread by the way. Please post more pictures when you have the time.
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I've been talking to Smitty via PM but I thought I'd intrude a bit on you thread as you're doing a lot what I wanted to do. I did just drop in an AudioFrog GS25 and it brought the soundstage up, and much clearer without doing anything else. Though I may try to fit a tweeter in the same location but would have to cut away the factory grill and cover it in grill cloth.

Loving your thread by the way. Please post more pictures when you have the time.
Thank you by the way

I’d be interested to see your idea of mounting a tweeter with a midrange in the dash... I imagine it would be easier for tuning, I think I’ve finally got mine closer to being dialed in, I had an error in my time delays which royally screwed things up, the bass appears to be up front now, I’ll look forward to your project.
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Thank you by the way

I’d be interested to see your idea of mounting a tweeter with a midrange in the dash... I imagine it would be easier for tuning, I think I’ve finally got mine closer to being dialed in, I had an error in my time delays which royally screwed things up, the bass appears to be up front now, I’ll look forward to your project.
I really didn't want to run speaker wires.. I'm always limited on time to work on the car so I was thinking of building a T-harness like tacotunes..

Then I did some searching and realized the stupidity (or genius) of Toyota engineers and how they paralleled the Front dash and front door speakers.. and series the rear door and hatch speakers. So I guess I will have to do some wire running afterall.
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I really didn't want to run speaker wires.. I'm always limited on time to work on the car so I was thinking of building a T-harness like tacotunes..

Then I did some searching and realized the stupidity (or genius) of Toyota engineers and how they paralleled the Front dash and front door speakers.. and series the rear door and hatch speakers. So I guess I will have to do some wire running afterall.
I wasn’t thrilled at first either, but turns out it’s actually very easy to do... at least for the front speakers I didn’t do rear fill
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I've also been exploring options to put tweeter in the dash with the mids. I'll be doing more with it after I finish the budget build experiment.

We may start another thread with ideas and options from other members so as not to intrude on your thread.

I'm still following your progress and would like to see some of your RTA measurements on some of your tunes.
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Here are the time delay and level settings I have so far, this is close to being dialed in, still could be better, the image is pretty well centered, but I still need to check my EQ settings since fixing my time delay. For reference I used a stereo pink noise track available free on the JL Audio site.

Now I’m 6’4” so my seat pretty far back, my subwoofer is on the passenger side facing rear of vehicle, I simply used a tape measure from my right ear to each speaker while sitting in the vehicle to obtain these measurements, I did add 3” to each door speaker to account for the depth of the door panel and 2” to each tweeter to account for the grille, for the subwoofer just measured in a straight line to the face of the box
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First is right tweeter EQ setting, then left.

Still refining, but need a good chunk of time without my kids crawling up my legs 😂
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First is right midrange, then left

Again still refining
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Subwoofer EQ which is simple, I had to dip the 45hz range due to the response.

I pretty much need to readjust everything since fixing time delay
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UPDATE... I placed an order for the Halo9 this morning and should be installing it on Friday, been experiencing signal issues and Bluetooth connectivity issues with the stock unit lately and I’m over it, it’s nothing new to install one of these, but I’m excited to see if there’s a difference in sound quality after I retune it... will update my thread once it’s done
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