for limited trim.

GVWR – curb weight = payload capacity
6300 - 4805 = 1495 lb



so that means in theory you can put up to 1500lb in the cargo including passengers?

Thanks

Is that what the sticker on your door jam says, or is that just what you're reading online? The actual curb weight will vary by trim/options, so always best to verify with the sticker on your door. I've attached a picture of what it looks like. This is the sticker for my 2020 Venture (TRD OR Premium essentially). I've got 1,165lbs payload.

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Limited has this sticker added. I assume for the extra trim pieces.

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I came across this article.

it seems that 1165lb is conservative..

Understanding Gross Vehicle Weight Rating in your 4Runner, 5th Gen 4Rs


if you think about it
if you have 5 adults 200lb each and 2 kids 50lb each
that is 1100lb.

I would think that the capacity should be more than that.....
the 1165lb could be the tire max capacity, can an expert shed lights in this?

My 2019 ORP's sticker says 835 lbs. Just double-checked it. I'm not really sure why it's so low compared to even 1165 that OP has listed. Assuming that his venture and my ORP are pretty similar equipment-wise (locker, etc.), it just doesn't make sense to me.

In my case, two passengers with two dogs is 450 lbs. Plus camping gear and supplies, two mountain bikes, recovery gear and other misc stuff and I'm easily approaching my payload. Now if you consider I have sliders and skids on mine, plus a heavier 33" spare tire, I'm easily over my payload. I'm probably near my payload just driving with me and two dogs...

It likely is conservative. Probably wouldn't be wise for a manufacturer to list the absolute total capacity that the vehicle can possibly handle. That would put them at greater risk of liability. They have to consider stability/tipping, braking distances, etc. If you decide you want to carry more, then in the event of an accident or some weight-related failure, that label will win every argument.

The yellow sticker is added for port installed items, such as cross bars.

its still confusing why the 1165lb vs the 1495lb that is calculated from GVWR

The stickers are generally very accurate in my experience. The weight of each trim/option set can change the curb weight quite a bit and the curb weight you find online generally is a generic average for a wide range of trims and options. Options like sunroofs, KDSS, 3rd row seats, stereo systems, larger screens, power seats, etc all add weight. It's conceivable that a manufacturer could put a dynamic curb weight system on their website that changes the weight based on the options you select, but none seem to bother. To get the REAL payload of a vehicle you really have to open the door and look at the door jam sticker. This is especially important for pickup truck buyers planning on towing, since hitch weight counts against a vehicle's payload too.

If you go weigh your vehicle with a full tank of fuel at a CAT scale (at a truck stop) and subract that weight from your GVWR, you should get a number very close to that tire loading sticker (unless you've added any heavy mods, at which point the payload is now less).

Also, that loading sticker really has nothing to do with the tire ratings which will usually add up to be higher than GVWR by a decent amount. It's strictly a GVWR - actual curb weight of the vehicle = payload.

I wonder if the TRD ORP above with the 835lb sticker has KDSS? Those components probably add quite a bit of weight.

The yellow sticker is added for port installed items, such as cross bars.

Agreed that makes sense. However, this limited has no port installed options. No mud flaps, no crossbars, no remote start, no running boards. My best assumption is still that its the Limited additional trim pieces that weigh 12lbs.

Perhaps some of the limited trim is installed at port.

It’s the locking differential that apparently reduces the payload. Pic from the owners manual... sorry for the sideways picture!

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My 18 ORP (with locking diff) user manual has the same info table as yours.
And the door sticker has the same info, max payload is 835 lbs, plus the yellow sticker to subtract 12 lbs for crossbars.
That includes passengers plus cargo, so for two lightweight people 835-12-170-140 = 513 lbs for cargo like tools, camping gear, food, etc. Not a whole lot left if you subtract weight for sliders, bumpers, ladders, jacks, shovels, etc.

PS: There’s another thread discussing this topic:
Lets address the "elephant"/ weight in the room!

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Strange. My Venture (essentially a ORP) has the locker and crossbars and has the 1165lb payload sticker.


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Hmmm... I looked at the 2020 online manual, it has the same specs.
1165lbs without locker, 835 lbs with locker.

Wrong sticker installed? Maybe check with the dealer, they should track this down for you.

Anyone has any insight on why the locker reduces the payload so much? I’d guess it’s something to do with axle weight limits but it can’t be that the locker makes the axle weaker.