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I have the Toyo AT3 285/70/17 C load. I got it at America's Tires (Discount Tires outside of CA), they didn't have it listed, but I called them and somehow they apeared. They're listed on Toyo website, so they exist, any tire place will have them shipped.
C is the happy medium, the sidewall protection isn't that much worse then E, the weight is usually better, and you also get a lot more flex when you air down.
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I’d totally go with C load but they only make SL and E in 265/70/17. I don’t want to go 285 because I don’t want to do any body modification yet and I don’t want to mess with the speedometer.
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03-27-2021, 01:29 AM
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I’d totally go with C load but they only make SL and E in 265/70/17. I don’t want to go 285 because I don’t want to do any body modification yet and I don’t want to mess with the speedometer.
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If you're doing stock, I'd look at Falken Wildpeaks SL, as good as you can get for pretty much everything but super deep mud. Mud isn't off roading btw, and MTs aren't better on dry rock because they have reduced contact patch.
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03-27-2021, 11:48 AM
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SL and a matching spare (and rim) and rotate the spare.
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03-27-2021, 12:12 PM
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Pizza cutters are only good in very rare situation off-road. If you're looking for a bigger looking tire and want to save on MPGs, then it's ok.
If you want traction on rocks, floating on sand and snow, and generally best off-road performance the bigger the contact patch the better. We air down to increase the contact patch. Tall tires give us clearance, width give us traction.
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I beg to differ
Unless you own something like this you're not going to be "floating" on snow:
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03-27-2021, 12:12 PM
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If you're doing stock, I'd look at Falken Wildpeaks SL, as good as you can get for pretty much everything but super deep mud. Mud isn't off roading btw, and MTs aren't better on dry rock because they have reduced contact patch.
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Yeah, I’m starting to think SL now. Wilepeaks and Duratrac and Toyo AT3s are on my short list of SL tires. I really don’t get to go out and do as much off-roading as I’d like. When I do go, it’s places like Joshua Tree, Death Valley and easy/green trails.
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03-27-2021, 12:14 PM
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SL and a matching spare (and rim) and rotate the spare.
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Yeah, I’m starting to lean towards SL.
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03-27-2021, 08:21 PM
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Yeah, I’m starting to think SL now. Wilepeaks and Duratrac and Toyo AT3s are on my short list of SL tires. I really don’t get to go out and do as much off-roading as I’d like. When I do go, it’s places like Joshua Tree, Death Valley and easy/green trails.
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Check out the ATX. Inexpensive and very well thought of.
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03-27-2021, 09:10 PM
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Did you have to do any liner mods to fit on the pizza cutters ??
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I haven't had to do any trimming (yet). Off Road (Trail) wheels and stock suspension. I occasionally get minor rubbing on the left front mudflap when the wheel is turned left, but only if I'm braking hard or hit a dip. It's so minor I don't worry about it.
Lift and UCAs are going on in a couple weeks. Can't wait 
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03-27-2021, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverTEP
Pizza cutters are only good in very rare situation off-road. If you're looking for a bigger looking tire and want to save on MPGs, then it's ok.
If you want traction on rocks, floating on sand and snow, and generally best off-road performance the bigger the contact patch the better. We air down to increase the contact patch. Tall tires give us clearance, width give us traction.
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Traction is proportional to pressure (weight per unit area). A given weight will put more pressure on a smaller contact patch. Skinnies will always do better on any kind of firm soil, including snow and ice. They also steer better.
One example of this is why people put additional weight directly over a truck's rear axle to gain traction on a rear wheel drive truck. The contact patch doesn't change, but adding additional weight increases the pressure applied by the tires.
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03-27-2021, 09:42 PM
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Yeah, I’m starting to lean towards SL.
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Most tire manufacturers allow a trial period, say 30 to 60 days or 500 miles, something like that. You can try a C or E load, and if you don't like them for any reason, just return them to the store and swap them out for something else. People do it all the time.
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03-27-2021, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Tuco S.
Most tire manufacturers allow a trial period, say 30 to 60 days or 500 miles, something like that. You can try a C or E load, and if you don't like them for any reason, just return them to the store and swap them out for something else. People do it all the time.
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Thank you for these tips. The only tires that comes in C load and stock size are the KO2s (which I had on the 2019 TRD ORP I had). The new tires I’ve been looking at are all SL or E. The decision making process has been a tough one because I want to do this right.
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03-28-2021, 02:30 AM
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I beg to differ
Unless you own something like this you're not going to be "floating" on snow:
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I agree, on a subaru with thin snow covered road, skinnies make sense.
When I talk about floating I'm talking about off roading, no pavement with deep snow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Leu2mb6_knA
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