08-14-2021, 08:52 PM
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I was looking at the NFAB rack. Its Aluminum, and bolts directly to the stock rails. I just carry kayaks, and fishing gear. Nothing crazy. Anyone have experience with the NFAB rack?
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09-22-2021, 12:02 AM
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Just installed the uptop overland bravo full length no drill roof rack. Stated wait time 12 weeks, got it in 10.5.
Easy no worries install. Minor issue - they hadn't included thread lock that their install instructions referenced. Upon emailing them, uptop suggested using loctite. Did so and have no complaints. Used immediately to transport 12-ft countertop. It's early days yet, so will share thoughts after 30-45 days of use.
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09-22-2021, 01:11 PM
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I don’t understand the appeal of running these full racks, that 90% of the pictures in here are completely empty and unused? I just ended up going with the LFD crossbars for my tent. Couldn’t be happier. Is a full rack really necessary to mount a rotopax?
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09-22-2021, 08:38 PM
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90% of my photos show an empty rack. Once I prep for a trip, it’s completely used up with an awning, water port, max trax, storage box, rotopax, shovel and axe.
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09-22-2021, 09:54 PM
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I went with the Rhino Rack Pioneer platform with backbone system and really like it.
It's aluminum so you dont get the inevitable rusting of the steel tube racks and that crap leaking all over your car.
It is very similar to the front runner rack. Main difference is on the front runner, the slats run side to side while on the rhino they run the length of the car. The FR also has a lip if I'm not mistaken.
While I dont know this to be a fact, the logic of physics would dictate that results in better aerodynamics and less wind noise. But maybe I'm just bs'ing myself there.
Part of the reason I went with rhino is that it will hold 700lbs static and i think 250 while driving. That means me and several friends can climb up there with camp chairs to watch an event. I figured the lengthwise slats would be better for that.
In order to get those full load ratings, you need the backbone system. (Frontrunner has a similar but I don't think theirs looks as good or was as short/compact). In order to get the backbone system, you needed the 76in long rack. That covered too much of the sunroof for me. About 2/3. So I put an aluminum blade on a circular saw and hacked off about 8 inches so now my sunroof is wide open. Not sure if you can do that with the front runner design.
I've had my for several years but back then rhino was cheaper for the rack but the accessories were more expensive. Front runner was the opposite. Rack was more accessories were less.
I will say the rhino rack is a PITMFA to attach/detach by yourself but it's really not something you do a lot anyway.
If I'm not mistaken there is both a rhino and frontrunner for sale on the forum. Not sure of location.
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09-23-2021, 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by eddiehatchblack
90% of my photos show an empty rack. Once I prep for a trip, it’s completely used up with an awning, water port, max trax, storage box, rotopax, shovel and axe.
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Why not just leave that stuff installed?
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09-23-2021, 09:02 AM
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I went with 4 LFD wide cross bars. Very strong and clean. Will accept Rotopax mounts without an adapter plate. Also, you don’t have to remove your side rails or end caps. You will have peace of mind of it not leaking.
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Nice setup with the LFD crossbars! I might go this way, looks high quality. I see you did not install the wind fairing crossbar up front, any wind noise with current setup?
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09-23-2021, 12:17 PM
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Why not just leave that stuff installed?
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It won’t clear my garage. This is not currently a daily driver, just an expensive hobby.
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09-23-2021, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by YellowSnow
I don’t understand the appeal of running these full racks, that 90% of the pictures in here are completely empty and unused? I just ended up going with the LFD crossbars for my tent. Couldn’t be happier. Is a full rack really necessary to mount a rotopax?
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I think I'd say the opposite. Why do the other 10% want to drive around with a rack full of crap? I'd keep my rack empty too knowing it won't be hard to load up when I need it.
I also did what you did and just got better crossbars (Victory.) I bolt up a Rola basket when I need it, which is rare, and it takes 5 minutes. Otherwise, no leaking, factory looking (which I like), much stronger than the OEM rails, and fits in my garage.
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09-23-2021, 06:58 PM
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Nice setup with the LFD crossbars! I might go this way, looks high quality. I see you did not install the wind fairing crossbar up front, any wind noise with current setup?
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I didn’t receive my fairing at the time with the crossbars. It did make some noticeable noise.
After I received and installed the fairing I would say it eliminated about 90% of the wind noise.
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09-24-2021, 10:40 AM
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09-24-2021, 10:49 AM
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Why not just leave that stuff installed?
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I think I'd say the opposite. Why do the other 10% want to drive around with a rack full of crap? I'd keep my rack empty too knowing it won't be hard to load up when I need it.
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Yeah I was going to say the same thing. For me going with a full length roofrack (SSO) was a no brainer simply for the fact that when I need it it's there. Growing up, my dad had a pickup truck with one of those full length bar setups and I can't tell you how many times thats come in handy for hauling things (wood, ladders, canopies, camping shit, etc).
I wouldn't want stuff mounted to it 24/7 because I'd need to remove it if I were picking up sheets of plywood for a project. Also because I think I'm already too close to the height of my garage now that I'm 2.5" lifted. xD
The other reason I wanted a full length was for easy mounting of an 8.5" awning. I don't leave it on all the time either but it has quick release mounts which make it a piece of cake.
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Victory 4X4
I like my Victory 4X4. They gave me a first responder discount. It's all aluminum and low profile. There is a up charge for the black hardware kit but still worth the extra money. Shpping was less then a month and install was pretty easy.
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09-25-2021, 09:06 AM
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I like my Victory 4X4. They gave me a first responder discount. It's all aluminum and low profile. There is a up charge for the black hardware kit but still worth the extra money. Shpping was less then a month and install was pretty easy.
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I absolutely love my Victory rack and have mounted various things on it.
Unfortunately I haven't been able to find any off the shelf carriage bolts that fit in the extrusion bars. The heads of the bolts are typically too fat to slide in.
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10-12-2021, 10:47 AM
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I have the full length K9 roof rack. I do love the flat surface. While K9 has a lot of accessories to assist you in mounting and securing all your desired gear I had a few custom brackets made to achieve some of my desired results.
1. The front light bar brackets to mount below the rack surface
2. a bracket adapter to mount my awing in tighter and at the height I wanted.
I've mounted both an ikamper and a 23Zero RTT with same K9 low profile RTT mounts.
Currently I have on my K9 Rack:
1. ikamper mini
2. 2 Alu-Box boxes and their K9 mounts, (w 2 50W solar panels)
3. under rack table and table slides
4. left and right flood lights
5. front light bar
I've redesigned my rack configuration several times and have mounted a 100W solar panel, rotopax cans, 23Zero tent (queen sized).
Point is, its very flexible.
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