Originally Posted by BorotHex

I’m not political, and I hate the topic in general...

Originally Posted by BorotHex

Prices will continue skyrocketing while the Fed prints money it doesn’t have. When the pumping stops the cards are all coming down and car lots will be full of cars that can’t be moved. The more people freak and overpay the worse it’s going to get, and I’m not thinking we’ll ever recover. Wages were already to low o sustain our economy. It’s going to get a lot, lot worse when the free money dries up and idiots in power have to live with what they’ve created. I’m not political, and I hate the topic in general, but every now and then a politician drowns himself so throughly it even gets my attention. Current Prez will be one term simply by what the economy does. No way will he survive the coming bloodbath. The public is going to freak after another year of this. Three more...well, it’s hard to imagine. But the next Prez will do nothing but make it worse and the public will ask “what now!”. Nothing. You sleep in the bed you made and your country goes down the drain.

Originally Posted by luked14

Were they saying there wouldn't be anymore 21's period? Like no new orp's or trdp's until 22's come out?

Originally Posted by LeesWagon

Yes. i was told that what is coming, is what we will get for this year.

However, i can now accurately confirm major BULLSHIT on that.... Because i emailed Toyota directly, and received a response. which quotes.

"We appreciate you taking the time to email us regarding your interest in the 2021 Toyota Runner TRD Pro production. The production of the 2021 Toyota 4Runners is still active. We recommend for you to continue working with any of your local Toyota dealers in finding or special ordering the vehicle of your choice."

Kinda hard to "work" with their dealers, when they lie about the production though.

Originally Posted by Nikko

Picked my 2021 TRDP up over the weekend and tried to get the $500 off, but they told me it didn't apply to the Pro? Paid sticker and was honestly just happy to get it ...

Originally Posted by jp.vegas

As long as people are willing to pay, either new or on the pre-owned market, prices will be what they are.

The Rolex bubble has been going on for years, and the only way to acquire a stainless steel sport model if you're not willing wait on a years long waiting list or purchase a bunch of jewelry for the wife prior to being allowed to purchase it, is to pay 30-40% markups over retail from "grey market" dealers.

No one "needs" a TRD Pro, they want one. And, if you want something you'll either pay or you won't get it; or perhaps you'll wait years to get one while your neighbor enjoys his new one right now. Either way, it's a choice. You can choose to pay, or not. Someone will though, at least for now, and that's the way the market works.

Originally Posted by K5to4R

Only 30-40%?! Mannnn, it is wild right now for that market. My buddy really wanted a stainless (pre jubilee stainless) and ponied up 14k for a watch I got for 8k in 2015. I didn’t believe him on the price until I checked out some grey market prices and made me 1) regret not buying a second one as an investment and 2) glad I got mine when I did because it’s now my best earning investment by doubling in value in just 6 years haha


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Originally Posted by jp.vegas

Yep, exactly right. Some models are a lot more, but your run of the mill Sub is going to cost a 30-40% premium. A ceramic Daytona is close to twice the msrp if you can find one.

The whole chip shortage isn't helping the automotive landscape in general as even lower grade models are scarce and selling for insane amounts new or pre-owned. I read a stat that Edmunds put out stating that 13% of new cars purchased in April were sold at more than MSRP.

Just like with Rolex, those who can't, or won't, pay to play will be left out. Or they'll buy an Omega

Originally Posted by BorotHex

Prices will continue skyrocketing while the Fed prints money it doesn’t have. When the pumping stops the cards are all coming down and car lots will be full of cars that can’t be moved. The more people freak and overpay the worse it’s going to get, and I’m not thinking we’ll ever recover. Wages were already to low o sustain our economy. It’s going to get a lot, lot worse when the free money dries up and idiots in power have to live with what they’ve created. I’m not political, and I hate the topic in general, but every now and then a politician drowns himself so throughly it even gets my attention. Current Prez will be one term simply by what the economy does. No way will he survive the coming bloodbath. The public is going to freak after another year of this. Three more...well, it’s hard to imagine. But the next Prez will do nothing but make it worse and the public will ask “what now!”. Nothing. You sleep in the bed you made and your country goes down the drain.

Originally Posted by Catch22

You realize this chip shortage, the fed printing money and stimulus started way before the new guy, It happened with the old one term guy and the guys before him, I suggest posting simple uneducated political theories on some other forum. Please not on a Toyota 4x4 forum.

Thanks

Originally Posted by Catch22

You realize this chip shortage, the fed printing money and stimulus started way before the new guy, It happened with the old one term guy and the guys before him, I suggest posting simple uneducated political theories on some other forum. Please not on a Toyota 4x4 forum.

Thanks

Originally Posted by BorotHex

You show your bias and political brainwashing. All politicians are full of shit and do nothing but destroy what they touch. It’s not one party.

Originally Posted by SlickTRD

cant we all just get an sr5 put some badges and pretend its a pro?