05-25-2022, 05:25 PM
|
#16
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,141
|
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,141
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by curmudge1
... with a receiver shackle?
Strong enough? Convenient enough?
Just a little more fuel for the fire...
|
definitely more convenient and probably strong enough. I actually was looking at a front hitch for accessory use but never went ahead with it. I know curt makes a front hitch, I started looking at it again. 2 bolts onto the frame on each side but it also anchors itself on the factory tow hooks as well - which is interesting if you believe 'they aren't supposed to be used for anything but tie down points for transport' . sure the force isn't only applied to the tow hooks, but still something to think about. expensive if only to be used as a recovery point because you could just use a bridle to even out the force if that was someone's concern
but what do I know???
__________________
A mistake that makes you humble is much better than an achievement that makes you arrogant
|
|
 Reply With Quote
|
|
05-26-2022, 09:07 AM
|
#17
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Slaughter Beach
Posts: 68
Real Name: scottie
|
|
|
Member
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Slaughter Beach
Posts: 68
Real Name: scottie
|
I was actually trying to finally install after a year of owning the APEX fronts yesterday for KDSS ‘16
They just released a video for the non KDSS, been asking them n others for help on KDSS forever
Nothing
Very bleak instructions on the site(forget to mention a lot)
I got a great deal when they were available n for peace of mind, why not…the attempted install now poses issues
Gotta figure out a way to sand down the drilled hole INSIDE of my frame…any suggestions?
Not something you can reach with a normal tool
|
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
|
05-26-2022, 09:10 AM
|
#18
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,141
|
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,141
|
^^^ what do you mean sand down the drilled hole in the frame? do the bolts not fit?
__________________
A mistake that makes you humble is much better than an achievement that makes you arrogant
|
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
|
05-26-2022, 10:25 AM
|
#19
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Slaughter Beach
Posts: 68
Real Name: scottie
|
|
|
Member
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Slaughter Beach
Posts: 68
Real Name: scottie
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Humble Leader
^^^ what do you mean sand down the drilled hole in the frame? do the bolts not fit?
|
The bolt fits but I have to run a a metal plate with welded on nuts that has the wire to fish through an opening in frame(created by removing crush bar) to the drilled out hole
The drilled out hole on the inside is flared up so the metal plate doesn’t lay flush
The hole on the inside is basically flared
|
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
|
05-26-2022, 10:29 AM
|
#20
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Vancouver BC, Canada
Posts: 587
|
|
|
Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Vancouver BC, Canada
Posts: 587
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by patkelly4370
|
Anyone know what brand these are?
__________________
2015 Magnetic Gray SR5P
|
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
|
05-26-2022, 10:38 AM
|
#21
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Slaughter Beach
Posts: 68
Real Name: scottie
|
|
|
Member
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Slaughter Beach
Posts: 68
Real Name: scottie
|
The ones on his rear were by a forum member
His call sign is like invazer or something
https://www.toyota-4runner.org/for-sale-t4r-items/260892-rear-recovery-point-sale-$90-per-pair-kansas.html
Last edited by scottiezilla; 05-26-2022 at 10:53 AM.
|
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
|
05-26-2022, 01:05 PM
|
#22
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,141
|
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,141
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by scottiezilla
The bolt fits but I have to run a a metal plate with welded on nuts that has the wire to fish through an opening in frame(created by removing crush bar) to the drilled out hole
The drilled out hole on the inside is flared up so the metal plate doesn’t lay flush
The hole on the inside is basically flared
|
oh I get it- ya that would be a PIA and not easy to do. I don't even know how you'd tackle that, if you even can
Quote:
Originally Posted by emmantik
Anyone know what brand these are?
|
look like treaty oak, same mounting hole pattern
__________________
A mistake that makes you humble is much better than an achievement that makes you arrogant
|
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
|
05-26-2022, 02:06 PM
|
#23
|
 |
Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Little Elm, TX
Posts: 536
|
|
|
Member
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Little Elm, TX
Posts: 536
|
I have these from Ironman 4x4 America. They are out of stock very often, but I love them.
__________________
2020 Army Green TRD Pro 4Runner | Instagram: @TRDHULK
35" KM3s | Kings | RRW RR6-H -25 Wheels | Cali Raised LED Sliders | + lots more
Visit my LinkTree for discounts at Cali Raised LED, RRW, Rago, Canvasback,
Auxito, Diode Dynamics, Insta360, Ghost Mount, Giraffe Tools, and more
|
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
|
05-26-2022, 03:52 PM
|
#24
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Slaughter Beach
Posts: 68
Real Name: scottie
|
|
|
Member
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Slaughter Beach
Posts: 68
Real Name: scottie
|
So I actually looked around in the frame n where the 2 holes are{one already there, 2nd has to be drilled out(there is a circle on frame but it’s blocked by factory steel inside frame)} n inside between the 1st/2nd hole is a random maybe 1/8” metal plate
This means the provided welded nut plate you fish in the crush bar will not be flush on the inside REGARDLESS
Reaching out to APEX tomorrow to see what’s up
|
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
|
05-26-2022, 04:52 PM
|
#25
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2022
Posts: 60
|
|
|
Member
Join Date: Jan 2022
Posts: 60
|
I have the front apex recovery points and didn't have to drill anything. They use existing holes on the frame and you just have to put bolt them on
|
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
|
05-26-2022, 06:24 PM
|
#26
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Slaughter Beach
Posts: 68
Real Name: scottie
|
|
|
Member
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Slaughter Beach
Posts: 68
Real Name: scottie
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sempre Nissart
I have the front apex recovery points and didn't have to drill anything. They use existing holes on the frame and you just have to put bolt them on
|
Have KDSS?
|
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
|
05-27-2022, 12:03 PM
|
#27
|
 |
Elite Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Pittsburgh
Posts: 5,688
Real Name: Chris
|
|
|
Elite Member
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Pittsburgh
Posts: 5,688
Real Name: Chris
|
I have a pair of the Apex recovery points that I never installed, if anyone is interested PM me
__________________
2017 Nautical Blue SR5 Premium - Black Emblems, AFE 76mm TB, AFE Momentum GT Intake, URD MAF Calibrator, Borla Touring Cat-Back Exhaust, VR ECU Tune, RCI Skid Plate, Morimoto MLED 2.0 Headlight Retrofit, Morimoto LED Fogs, Eagle Eye Smoked Black Tail Lights, FyreFlys LED Interior, Meso Puddle Lights, Tinted Mirror Turn Signals, Smoked Amber Raptor Lights, Odyssey 34 Battery, 32" LED Bar with Rago Hidden Brackets, Rago Molle Panels, Side Shooter LED Ditch Lights, sPod w/ PowerTray, Raceline Matte Bronze Wheels w/ Cooper Discoverer RTX, CaliRaised Rock Sliders, BajaRack Full Length Roof Rack, Kenwood DMX1057XR, Infinity Kappa Door Speakers and 3.5's in dash, JL 8w3v3 in JBL Enclosure, Husky Weather Beaters, Blackvue DR900S Dash Cams
|
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
|
05-27-2022, 01:55 PM
|
#28
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Little Elm, TX
Posts: 536
|
|
|
Member
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Little Elm, TX
Posts: 536
|
__________________
2020 Army Green TRD Pro 4Runner | Instagram: @TRDHULK
35" KM3s | Kings | RRW RR6-H -25 Wheels | Cali Raised LED Sliders | + lots more
Visit my LinkTree for discounts at Cali Raised LED, RRW, Rago, Canvasback,
Auxito, Diode Dynamics, Insta360, Ghost Mount, Giraffe Tools, and more
|
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
|
05-28-2022, 07:53 PM
|
#29
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: May 2017
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 1,232
|
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2017
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 1,232
|
apex overland recovery points:
non-kdss: 15 minute install (no stick nuts)
kdss: basically as much work as installing a new front bumper (uses stick nuts to get in the frame from the front)
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by RysiuM
I just look at them and say: you have not the absolute slightest idea what you are talking about. This is 4Runner.
|
'15 Trail Premium, GOBI Stealth, CVT Summit Awning, ARB Safari Snorkel, TRD Pro susp. w/Bilstein 6112 coils & 1" spacer (front) & OME 895 (rear), 285/70/17 BFG KO2, Spidertrax wheel spacers, TRD Pro package (wheels, grill, valences, & skid), full RCI aluminum skids, C4 Fab diff skid, Toytec bump stop extensions, plenty of lights, patches, stickers, and other miscellaneous mods (backup & front camera, accessory meter display, rear window/hatch, bumper cup holders, Wit's End fire extinguisher mount, Ellis Precision TRD shift lever)
|
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
|
05-28-2022, 08:29 PM
|
#30
|
 |
Member
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: Fayetteville AR
Posts: 776
|
|
|
Member
Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: Fayetteville AR
Posts: 776
|
The factory "tie down points" are actually really stout recovery points I don't care what the manual says. I've welded pipe in power plants for several years in my younger days and a degree in bioelectrical engineering with a wealth of structural knowledge. The ends go all the way through the cross member and are welded on the front and back side with a heavy 1/4 throat bead. A proper weld will not break the cross member tubing will tear before those recovery points break. And mine have been well tested over the past 12 years. I'm not sure how a bolt is stronger than a weld but ok then.
|
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is On
|
|
|
|
Linear Mode
