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Old 05-28-2022, 08:42 PM #31
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The factory "tie down points" are actually really stout recovery points I don't care what the manual says. I've welded pipe in power plants for several years in my younger days and a degree in bioelectrical engineering with a wealth of structural knowledge. The ends go all the way through the cross member and are welded on the front and back side with a heavy 1/4 throat bead. A proper weld will not break the cross member tubing will tear before those recovery points break. And mine have been well tested over the past 12 years. I'm not sure how a bolt is stronger than a weld but ok then.


Saw a Tacoma winched out of a wash using 3 winches. One on the driver side frame, and 1 on each of the front recovery points at angles. No issues at all. Anything more would have required a toe truck or crane of some sort. I am good just using them as is.
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Saw a Tacoma winched out of a wash using 3 winches. One on the driver side frame, and 1 on each of the front recovery points at angles. No issues at all. Anything more would have required a toe truck or crane of some sort. I am good just using them as is.
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I have a pair of the Apex recovery points that I never installed, if anyone is interested PM me

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I've used my factory recovery points 6 times now to get snatched and winched out. No issues and I feel totally safe using them.
You like your bumper!? I did so I built it myself for about $75. Except made it better. I'm building another some random guy at the gas pump offered to buy it.
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Very observant! Nice ��
Just poking a little fun. Hope people don't take it too serious. As long as people are happy and safe, I'm all for it. Whatever that means for them.

I do have a real beef with the vendors who prey on fear and lie about the safety of the oem loops to people who don't know any better to sell $5 steel plates for $150. They know that the OEM loops are stronger and safer than the aftermarket ones. If they don't, that's probably worse.
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Just poking a little fun. Hope people don't take it too serious. As long as people are happy and safe, I'm all for it. Whatever that means for them.

I do have a real beef with the vendors who prey on fear and lie about the safety of the oem loops to people who don't know any better to sell $5 steel plates for $150. They know that the OEM loops are stronger and safer than the aftermarket ones. If they don't, that's probably worse.
I agree. You just gave me a great idea sir! Yeah I could sit on my a$$ all day and bust out twenty or so sets of those.
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No I don’t have kdss

Just noticed the kdss version does require drilling. I’m assuming that’s what you have?
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