Nope

My insurance is for new OEM replacement parts. Glass has $0 deductible too.

I dont know if I would have Safelite do the R&R anyhow.

I wont replace it until it leaks or I cannot stand looking at the crack. That might be years.

Well this may be the dumbest thread of 2021,

Now If you had said that the more upright design of the 4runner glass causes it to be more prone to damage from impacts I think everyone would agree - and might even match up with this scientific discussion you had with the glass repair man/insurance gurus

You have no idea on the size, weight, shape etc of the object that hit the windshield and you just default to the worst ever. Was there a control study done against other manufacturing in the same setting?........great science

But I will play - I got a stone chip in my glass 4-5years ago, did a self repair with a cheap kit from the parts store and it didn't spider so I think Toyota glass is excellent and I am also 10x better repair man then your safelite guy

I just ribbing you OP, its the internet you can post what you want but seriously...Craptastic thread

Laminated glass is laminated glass. There are no better or worse make-ups. Maybe the interlayer is thicker on some, but that will not affect the strength of the glass to exterior impacts. Claiming otherwise would be like saying the 316 Stainless Steel from one company is superior to another's.

There are some false statements here.
1) automotive glass comes in a wide array of thicknesses and compositions and laminate ply architecture. There are significant differences when biasing which ply is thicker is the laminate construction.
2)PPG doesn’t even exist - hasn’t for several years. They sold their automotive operations to PGW and then sold everything to Vitro out of Mexico. Last I checked AGC had the highest market share followed closely by Fuyao, then Vitro, NSG Pilkington, Guardian/Carlex.


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This is not correct. You can vary the thickness of each glass layer and vary the interlayer to improve strength, acoustic properties, etc


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There's no science being offered here. How big was the stone? Maybe there were two stones, one immediately behind the other. At what angle did it impact the windshield? At what velocity (50mph isn't the answer)? What force was applied, over what area? Were you able to conduct scientific comparisons to other windshields? What about SafeLite's repair process - did they use the proper amount of vacuum to do the repair? If yes, how do you know? Perhaps they mis-diagnosed the degree of damage.

I've had numerous rock strikes to the windshield of my 2019 4Runner, and ecpected to see damage from a few of them. But none yet. Does that make my 4Runner's windshield the best ever?

Um, no. Just to give you an idea, recently we had a 2017 Tacoma show up at the Toyota dealership I work at for some truly wild electrical issues. Our best Technician quickly traced it down to an extremely wavy aftermarket windshield that had also been poorly installed. (All windshields are the same, right?) This led to water running down the A pillar and causing corrosion in the main electrical harness & connectors. The insurance company forked out almost $4,000 to repair the wiring. Then they pulled out the windshield and slapped in another wavy aftermarket POS. Words fail me.

Be happy you don't own an FJ Cruiser.

Those guys are plagued by busted/cracked/spidered windshields.



I was lucky enough to get a spider right above the heater element the first year I owned the truck. I "fixed" with an epox kit and 6+ years later it finally blew out, 12 months ago. Again, "luck", it went straight across the bottom BUT craziness and I think this is was caused it to go ballistic, under the wiper on the passenger side a quarter size chunk of glass broke out right on top of the heater element. Some moisture must have penetrated, the heater element heat and then expansion, boom.

Install Safari windows on your 4Runner problem solved!

Great thread cant believe I read it

Thanks for the kind words. Pilkington is now under the NSG Group. NSG and Central Glass are the Asia brand names, Europe and NA are Pilkington


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Am I understanding correctly? You have a damaged windshield, OEM replacement insurance, $0 deductible, glass repair typically doesn't affect premiums, and your original post was complaining about how much the original windshield bothers you (going as far as to use the much maligned all-caps approach)...yet you're not going to replace it? What's really going on here?

You need EXOShield

Windshield Protection Film | ExoShield

1 I have to go somewhere for a couple hours that I shouldn’t have to with a year old vehicle

2 They will e’ff the truck up pulling out the old windshield

3 They will e’ff up the camera and mirror calibration and I will harpoon a school buss while on auto pilot

4 the broken windshields will be a yearly goddamn event

5 e’ff this

Try to find a local shop that can replace your windshield with a PPG or ask safelite to replace it with one...
Explain to insurance co, that the windshields safelite uses are more fragile than PPG....worth the try!