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Old 06-08-2021, 10:51 AM #1
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Old Manu Emu upper control arms - anyone running these? They look easy to maintain

Hey guys,

I ran Total Chaos UCAs on my old 4unner and want to make my life easier for the next one.

As I'm planning my build, I'm shopping around upper control arms that are easier to maintain.

These look appealing - who is running these? I plan to run them with extended travel kings.

UCA0004 - Old Man Emu Upper Control Arms - 03+ 4Runner / 07-14 FJ Cruiser/03+GX

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I went with JBA mostly because if the balljoint does take a shit, I can just replace it without a press. It just unbolts. Has grease zerks as well.
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I installed them recently, but Iím still trying to dial in my lift so I havenít had much time to check them out. Build quality seems great (to be expected from OME). They are greaseable and have a nice cap to cover the zirk. I reached out to OME to find out more info on recommended grease intervals and what kind of ball joint was used and they ghosted me. Itís possible that I greased them too much because Iím a bit newer to being a driveway mechanic.

The garage that I took it to for alignment couldnít seem to get as much caster as I was hoping for, so my tires rub at the moment. Iím not sure it thatís the garage or the UCA. Iím planning to take to to a different garage to see what they can do.

Sorry I couldnít be more helpful on it at this time, but Iíll update when I can.
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I reached out to OME to find out more info on recommended grease intervals and what kind of ball joint was used and they ghosted me.
Terrible sign if that's the case.

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The garage that I took it to for alignment couldnít seem to get as much caster as I was hoping for, so my tires rub at the moment. Iím not sure it thatís the garage or the UCA. Iím planning to take to to a different garage to see what they can do.
My guess is these probably don't have much if any more built-in caster than oem UCAs. Their marketing literature is almost intentionally vague on the subject...."You can expect between +2.5 to +3.5 degrees of caster with a 2 inch lift." Seriously? +2.5 degrees is below the oem range for acceptable caster. You should be able to get +3.5 degrees caster if not more with oem UCAs on a 2" lift.
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Terrible sign if that's the case.



My guess is these probably don't have much if any more built-in caster than oem UCAs. Their marketing literature is almost intentionally vague on the subject...."You can expect between +2.5 to +3.5 degrees of caster with a 2 inch lift." Seriously? +2.5 degrees is below the oem range for acceptable caster. You should be able to get +3.5 degrees caster if not more with oem UCAs on a 2" lift.
this...if i'm buying uppers i'm specifically checking for added castor to account for lift.
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I installed them recently, but Iím still trying to dial in my lift so I havenít had much time to check them out. Build quality seems great (to be expected from OME). They are greaseable and have a nice cap to cover the zirk. I reached out to OME to find out more info on recommended grease intervals and what kind of ball joint was used and they ghosted me. Itís possible that I greased them too much because Iím a bit newer to being a driveway mechanic.

The garage that I took it to for alignment couldnít seem to get as much caster as I was hoping for, so my tires rub at the moment. Iím not sure it thatís the garage or the UCA. Iím planning to take to to a different garage to see what they can do.
You need to find a different shop to align it. They made your caster worse than when you came in, without making anything else better

That's too much grease, the boot needs to be sealed.
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I just spoke with ARB over the phone and got some answers. They confirmed that there isnít much published maintenance information available to the public at this time, so unfortunately I guess youíll just have to take my word at this time if you are considering these UCAs.

They confirmed that there isnít much additional caster incorporated in the design. +2.5-3.5 is what they are designed for and they wouldnít recommend more than that. (So, that doesnít exactly help me out a ton, but Iíll get another alignment from a different shop and see if I can get a little more than current.)

As far as maintenance, they recommend marine grade chassis grease every other oil change. The ball joint used is OEM and can be replaced with OEM. The tech didnít know if OEM ball joints would have a removable zirk fitting though (so you can use the provided cap), so they also sell a replacement ball joint (part #UCASP0012).

And they didnít think I damaged my boot from overfilling (shown above), so hopefully that is also correct in my case. I probably would have went with JBAs if my wheels didnít have 4.75Ē backspacing, but I didnít want to chance them rubbing on the UCAs. Iíll keep trying to make my setup work and provide some updates when I have them.
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