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Old 07-22-2021, 11:24 PM #31
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Honestly brother, these forums are probably not the best place to draw the most samples.

Respectively, the majority of active posters will be conservative on here and are lurking about car issues or mild mods. There is a handful of serious guys who wheel, or buy into the subculture, but not many will chime in regarding wheel offsets and brands because there are too many variables.

I recommend scouring Instagram, using the #4runner hashtag, then dig deeper into each make and model. Maybe ping those individuals for their experience. Sometimes if you go deep enough, you might see that someone has already asked the same question under the photo comments.

If you’re from Colorado, Arizona, or NorCal maybe find the most prominent group, meet up, or business and go from there. Local guys can be really helpful.

This thread is a good start but just looking out for you: might want to expand your search.
I really appreciate your advice and looking out for me as this is uncharted territory for me. I usually just go for the larger tires and call it a day after a lift. But, was really intrigued to get that wide stance. But, it’s definitely clear that the stance I want is not achievable unless I want to bite the bullet on a BMC and more. I’ve never even heard of the pinch weld mod? Not sure what that is. LOL. I fully understand what the BMC is, just worried about any affects it could have under warranty or long term.
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Thanks, definitely understand. I was dreaming for a minute there hoping for something I clearly cannot do. At least until the warranty is out. I am not sure about the structural affect of a BMC, that’s a whole new topic. LOL. So, I’ve just avoided on my list of mods on each Toyota I’ve owned so far. But, maybe I will jump in some day on it. What really sank in was you mentioning you couldn’t even fit the -38 with stock tire’s. So bummed!
if you do the BMC properly and weld in a plate, there's no long term structural effects. I drove mine offroad for about 10k miles without even doing the plate and it was fine. but I put enough miles on mine that I was out of warranty in a year, so I dont know anything about that aspect.
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To add a little info on my experience. I have the TRD Pro wheels with 1.25 spacers and SPC UCA’s on a 18ORP with 285’s. I get rubbing on the back fender well. I took off the mud flaps and still get rubbing on the weld joint behind the mud flaps.
I’ve had the alignment tweaked and still get some rubbing at the extremes. I’ve done the fender liner mod and still get some slight rubbing there from pushing my wheels forward during he alignment. I haven’t decided if I want to keep tweaking or just give up on the wider stance. I’m unwilling to cut into the fame to prevent the rubbing there and my alignment guy says pushing my wheels to far forward will affect the steering to much.
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It is totally more important to attract the bro's in the REI parking lot, than to reverse or turn. #sayNO2BMC


Other than that, SCS F5 in -38 w/ BFG ko2 in 285/70/17 is my jam.
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To add a little info on my experience. I have the TRD Pro wheels with 1.25 spacers and SPC UCA’s on a 18ORP with 285’s. I get rubbing on the back fender well. I took off the mud flaps and still get rubbing on the weld joint behind the mud flaps.
I’ve had the alignment tweaked and still get some rubbing at the extremes. I’ve done the fender liner mod and still get some slight rubbing there from pushing my wheels forward during he alignment. I haven’t decided if I want to keep tweaking or just give up on the wider stance. I’m unwilling to cut into the fame to prevent the rubbing there and my alignment guy says pushing my wheels to far forward will affect the steering to much.
Sorry to hear about that man, points well taken and I can now see how that could become an issue. I really wish there was little more space in there, but I get why a manufacturer would not want to do that.
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It is totally more important to attract the bro's in the REI parking lot, than to reverse or turn. #sayNO2BMC


Other than that, SCS F5 in -38 w/ BFG ko2 in 285/70/17 is my jam.
I may get the courage to go that wide someday, but it looks like for now I am not going to go to the extreme. But man…..it looks sick like that!

Too damn funny on the REI comment!
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It is totally more important to attract the bro's in the REI parking lot, than to reverse or turn. #sayNO2BMC


Other than that, SCS F5 in -38 w/ BFG ko2 in 285/70/17 is my jam.
Lol.

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We have that “brrraaapppppl”. Works every time.
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if you want a brodozer stance and 33's without doing any mods, you shoulda bought a jeep. jus sayin
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if you want a brodozer stance and 33's without doing any mods, you shoulda bought a jeep. jus sayin
Not sure why that comment was necessary. I just wanted to understand what it would take to widen the stance if I could do so without taking on the modifications that I do not want to at this standpoint. I have modified my other vehicles plenty, I’ve just never increased the stance.
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Not sure why that comment was necessary. I just wanted to understand what it would take to widen the stance if I could do so without taking on the modifications that I do not want to at this standpoint. I have modified my other vehicles plenty, I’ve just never increased the stance.
Maybe just shooting the shet? He was pretty helpful in this thread, especially since he’s running the most “brodozer” offset.
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...I just wanted to understand what it would take to widen the stance if I could do so without taking on the modifications that I do not want to at this standpoint...
Reversing, full lock on the turn, compression on the front spring... I don't think you can significantly "widen the stance" without a lift, trim, or rub. A wider stance makes the tire sweep across a longer arc.
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...I fully understand what the BMC is, just worried about any affects it could have under warranty or long term...
Are there any likely warranty claims that would be refused because of a properly executed BMC?
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Are there any likely warranty claims that would be refused because of a properly executed BMC?
The only thing I can think of is it’d be less prone to rusting at the mount depending on the spray coat after the weld. Lol
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Reversing, full lock on the turn, compression on the front spring... I don't think you can significantly "widen the stance" without a lift, trim, or rub. A wider stance makes the tire sweep across a longer arc.
Thank you, I appreciate the information. Definitely going to lift the 4Runner. Already have the fender tuck, but would do more if needed. I usually remove the mud flaps, so I don’t need those either. I just didn’t want to perform a BMC, but I guess it’s not the end of the world if you go through a quality company…..but there lies the issue in Illinois……not many great shops unfortunately.
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Thank you, I appreciate the information. Definitely going to lift the 4Runner. Already have the fender tuck, but would do more if needed. I usually remove the mud flaps, so I don’t need those either. I just didn’t want to perform a BMC, but I guess it’s not the end of the world if you go through a quality company…..but there lies the issue in Illinois……not many great shops unfortunately.


Go to a 4Runner or Tacoma meet and check out people’s vehicles, and if you see one done how you like it, ask the owner where they got it done.

There are a lot of ways to do this
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