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First 5k oil change. I want to avoid dealership.. Mobil1 or OEM oil?
As title says, about to hit my first 5k miles and I want to avoid the dealership knucklehead mechanics at all costs. I rather do it myself, would you guys recommend me using Mobil1 Synthetic or get the OEM stuff from the dealership for my oil change. Also, would you guys recommend getting a new drain plug also? or re-use the old one. Thanks in advance.
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08-10-2021, 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by HK3345678
As title says, about to hit my first 5k miles and I want to avoid the dealership knucklehead mechanics at all costs. I rather do it myself, would you guys recommend me using Mobil1 Synthetic or get the OEM stuff from the dealership for my oil change. Also, would you guys recommend getting a new drain plug also? or re-use the old one. Thanks in advance.
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You can scan this:
5th Gen Oil Recommendation? New Owner!
My personal choice is what Toyota developed the engine with. Toyota Syn
Drain plug: Some use a Fumoto plug, no reason to change from OEM to OEM, just replace gasket there.
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08-10-2021, 07:01 AM
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I thought oil/filter changes were every 10K miles?
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08-10-2021, 07:54 AM
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I thought oil/filter changes were every 10K miles?
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Definitely won’t hurt a new engine to change the oil after break in.
Doing a DIY oil change every 5,000 miles is looked favorably on by all Toyota Master Technicians I have talked to about this.
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08-10-2021, 09:54 AM
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Mobil 1 for me. I run a 5k oil change interval as I just can't get comfortable going the full 10k. All of my used oil analysis reports have come back squeaky clean so far.
No need to replace a drain plug unless it's damaged/stripped - just use a fresh OEM crush washer. I do use the OEM toyota filter kits.
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08-10-2021, 10:34 AM
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Quaker State 0w20 Synthetic.
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08-10-2021, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Baystate4Runner
Definitely won’t hurt a new engine to change the oil after break in.
Doing a DIY oil change every 5,000 miles is looked favorably on by all Toyota Master Technicians I have talked to about this.
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Toyota runs in all their engines at the factory before installing them in vehicles. Thus there is no break in period for Toyota engines.
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08-10-2021, 10:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HK3345678
As title says, about to hit my first 5k miles and I want to avoid the dealership knucklehead mechanics at all costs. I rather do it myself, would you guys recommend me using Mobil1 Synthetic or get the OEM stuff from the dealership for my oil change. Also, would you guys recommend getting a new drain plug also? or re-use the old one. Thanks in advance.
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Any quality synthetic oil is OK. But, unlike what others have said, you do not need to change the oil at 5K miles. The engineers at the factory who designed and built your vehicle know best, not the "knucklehead" or "master" mechanics at the dealership or some tech school kid. Engineers say 10K is all you need. I vote with the experts (engineers).
Just be sure to use an OEM oil filter: Thinking the dealer used the wrong filter for my 10k oil change
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08-10-2021, 10:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fkheath
Any quality synthetic oil is OK. But, unlike what others have said, you do not need to change the oil at 5K miles. The engineers at the factory who designed and built your vehicle know best, not the "knucklehead" or "master" mechanics at the dealership or some tech school kid. Engineers say 10K is all you need. I vote with the experts (engineers).
Just be sure to use an OEM oil filter: Thinking the dealer used the wrong filter for my 10k oil change
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Engineers would spec a 5k change, but finance nerds would bump it out to 10k to reduce warranty period costs.
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08-10-2021, 11:27 AM
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My first oil change was at 5000. I prefer to not exceed 7500 on subsequent oil changes. I'm using 5W-30 Mobil 1.
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08-10-2021, 11:29 AM
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I'm changing at every 10K miles using Quaker State 0w20 synthetic and the Toyota Filters labeled YZZA5, but filter paper labeled YZZA2. 265K miles on a 2014.
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08-10-2021, 12:16 PM
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I do a filter every 5K (Fram TG, although I'm considering going to OEM) and a full change every 10K with Mobil 1 0W20, although I have used Quaker State the past couple of changes because my parts place has had it on sale. My 2011 Camry runs like top at 200K plus with this strategy and my 4th gen V8 was still running strong at 190K when I sold it, also on this schedule.
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08-10-2021, 12:21 PM
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If you're doing a 5k oci any brand that meets the spec in your owners manual will be just fine, even the cheap stuff.
Do yourself a favor and get a Fumoto F-133S.
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08-10-2021, 12:39 PM
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My reputable service rep at Toyota told me the Toyota oil is Mobil one.
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08-10-2021, 12:40 PM
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What's the going price for Toyota oil filters?
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