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Steering Wheel vibration
Hey guys,
I just pulled the trigger on a 2017 TRD ORP. I love it and am extremely happy with it. My wife and I traveled about 350 miles to find the right deal. I noticed around mile 180 on the way home that at 60+ mph the steering wheel begins to shake a little and pulls to the right. If I let back off and go below 58ish it falls back to normal with no shake.
I did some quick googling last night and found a few old threads on here about it being pretty common from what looked like 2014 and earlier along with the brake "squish".
From reading through all the threads it seems like a road force balance and possibly and alignment should fix this issue?
Anyone have this issue recently with a new T4R? What was your solution?
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05-15-2017, 08:05 AM
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I think you answered you own question. Wheel balance and alignment.
Congratulations on the purchase.
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05-15-2017, 11:54 AM
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take it back to the dealer... far too many of us have this issue with the 4runner. Yours being that new and having that issue is frustrating.
I have bridgestone dueler alenza plus in OEM size with lots of tread left. I've had 3 regular balances done and 1 road force recently. While the roadforce helped a bit, i can feel the shake starting to return. I've swapped rotors which was a waste because my OEM rotors had so much life to go.
I honestly think its out of round tires. Could it be the OEM rims? I just don't get how such a premium priced vehicle is having such an issue for so many years
Can we get a petition started?
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05-15-2017, 12:39 PM
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take it back to the dealer... far too many of us have this issue with the 4runner. Yours being that new and having that issue is frustrating.
I have bridgestone dueler alenza plus in OEM size with lots of tread left. I've had 3 regular balances done and 1 road force recently. While the roadforce helped a bit, i can feel the shake starting to return. I've swapped rotors which was a waste because my OEM rotors had so much life to go.
I honestly think its out of round tires. Could it be the OEM rims? I just don't get how such a premium priced vehicle is having such an issue for so many years
Can we get a petition started?
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Why do you think it's premium priced? The AVERAGE cost for a new vehicle in 2015 was close to $35K. That's all of them put together. Even though it might be for you, it is definitely not premium priced for the US as a whole.
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05-15-2017, 12:50 PM
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You've gotten the right answers. What I'll add however is this:
- Make sure you know how to repeat the problem,
- Be absolutely certain you go along on the test drive,
- Go test it immediately afterwards.
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05-15-2017, 03:23 PM
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Why do you think it's premium priced? The AVERAGE cost for a new vehicle in 2015 was close to $35K. That's all of them put together. Even though it might be for you, it is definitely not premium priced for the US as a whole.
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Well. Look at other SUV's in this class. The 4runner commands a higher price than its competitors.
35K couldn't even get you a brand new basic 4runner in 2015. and AVERAGE does not apply to Toyotas. Their used vehicles hold value ridiculously well and their new vehicles command a couple thousand more than their closest competitors in its class. We pay a little more for a less problematic, reliable vehicle and that's why its frustrating. So that's what i mean by premium. IMHO.
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05-15-2017, 03:29 PM
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same problem taking it to dealer tomorrow assuming it's a tire balance issue 17 TRDORP, it's annoying but livable coming from a tj that would death wobble from 45-55
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same problem taking it to dealer tomorrow assuming it's a tire balance issue 17 TRDORP, it's annoying but livable coming from a tj that would death wobble from 45-55
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I'm more worried about the increased suspension and wheel bearing wear than the steering wheel shake.
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05-15-2017, 03:48 PM
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Same steering wheel issue around 60-70mph and pulling to the right on my new 17 TRD-ORP.
Waiting for my dealer to get the diagnostics for the 2017 4Runner from Toyota to be able to do an alignment and road force balancing.
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05-15-2017, 04:03 PM
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I have the same issue at 50-55 mph. But i installed BFG KO2's 275/70R17 within a couple days of my purchase with a daystar lift and wheel spacers I thought it could be a combination of all these. I will try getting a wheel alignment done again.
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05-15-2017, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 1jzgte
Well. Look at other SUV's in this class. The 4runner commands a higher price than its competitors.
35K couldn't even get you a brand new basic 4runner in 2015. and AVERAGE does not apply to Toyotas. Their used vehicles hold value ridiculously well and their new vehicles command a couple thousand more than their closest competitors in its class. We pay a little more for a less problematic, reliable vehicle and that's why its frustrating. So that's what i mean by premium. IMHO.
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You need to move up $10K or so to get vehicles that compete with the 4Runner sales. JGC, Explorer, Tahoe, etc. The 4Runner is a bargain.
I wouldn't worry about wheel bearing or suspension life cycles just because of a slight tire shake. If you have that problem, 99% of the time it's the tires. Go get them balanced, road force if necessary.
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05-15-2017, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 1engineer
Why do you think it's premium priced? The AVERAGE cost for a new vehicle in 2015 was close to $35K. That's all of them put together. Even though it might be for you, it is definitely not premium priced for the US as a whole.
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Simply typing "AVERAGE" in caps doesn't mean anything other than you have no understanding of underlying numbers. As someone who works with numbers and anyone who has taken the most basic of statistics courses can tell you (even a "engineer"), a single outlier can throw an average. If I have 11 homes in a neighborhood and 10 of them sold for 100k and the 11th sold for 1.5M (outlier), that average goes to shit real quick and is in no way a representation of the actual market. The US car market is no different. A median is the more accurate representation. However, being in such a wide array of socioeconomic classes in the US compounded by ever increasing inflation and credit markets, it's all subsequent to your perspective. But the point is, there is no need to be disparaging to his perspective when your primary argument is based upon poor math and a not so sturdy soap box.
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Originally Posted by niteghost
Hey guys,
I just pulled the trigger on a 2017 TRD ORP. I love it and am extremely happy with it. My wife and I traveled about 350 miles to find the right deal. I noticed around mile 180 on the way home that at 60+ mph the steering wheel begins to shake a little and pulls to the right. If I let back off and go below 58ish it falls back to normal with no shake.
I did some quick googling last night and found a few old threads on here about it being pretty common from what looked like 2014 and earlier along with the brake "squish".
From reading through all the threads it seems like a road force balance and possibly and alignment should fix this issue?
Anyone have this issue recently with a new T4R? What was your solution?
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I currently have this problem. Here is what I have tried so far. X2 4-wheel alignments, as well as 3 road force balances. None of these fixed the issue. Recently I had an F-it moment and bought all new wheels and tires. I had another alignment done as well and I still have the steering wheel shake.
I wish I had a better answer for you but this is my experience.
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05-15-2017, 05:28 PM
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Simply typing "AVERAGE" in caps doesn't mean anything other than you have no understanding of underlying numbers. As someone who works with numbers and anyone who has taken the most basic of statistics courses can tell you (even a "engineer"), a single outlier can throw an average. If I have 11 homes in a neighborhood and 10 of them sold for 100k and the 11th sold for 1.5M (outlier), that average goes to shit real quick and is in no way a representation of the actual market. The US car market is no different. A median is the more accurate representation. However, being in such a wide array of socioeconomic classes in the US compounded by ever increasing inflation and credit markets, it's all subsequent to your perspective. But the point is, there is no need to be disparaging to his perspective when your primary argument is based upon poor math and a not so sturdy soap box.
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Here. https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...book/26690191/ I spent two seconds searching just for you. This is a few years old so add another 3% or so.
It absolutely does not matter "However, being in such a wide array of socioeconomic classes in the US compounded by ever increasing inflation and credit markets, it's all subsequent to your perspective" (your quote) because the 4Runner's price is not dependent to your class. It is the same regardless, and that is just a bit above the AVERAGE list price. I would also think that the median would be higher than the average because of the small volume of really expensive vehicles versus the huge volume of lower priced vehicles. Thanks for letting me know you work with numbers.
Take a look at what people cross shop their 4Runners against: Jeep Grand Cherokee ($40K+) Tahoe ($50K+) Explorer ($40K+) and the 4Runner quickly becomes a good deal, not an expensive deal.
OP, sorry to thread jack. Get your tires re balanced.
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LOL,
I too have the same problem on my new 17 TRDPRO, will post up results of dealer visit.
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