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Old 09-12-2021, 02:36 PM #1
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Real Sliders with Removable Steps?

So, I checked out the "Consolidate Slider Thread" and nothing seemed to stand out ...

I took the new TRD Pro up Flagpole Knob yesterday in Virginia. Not a hard trail by any means (at least not the paths I took) but the "Predator" side steps my truck came with slightly scraped on some rocks twice. No damage, not a hard hit at all - but it's clear to me that the reduced clearance is not something I'm pleased about (although expected).

I would normally just grab some sliders and sell the Pred's cheap ... but my fiance really likes the side steps, and uses them every time she climbs into the truck.

I saw some "clamp on" steps for sliders, and I found them to look hideous. So - I see to recall, sometime in the past, seeing some real sliders that had bolt-on steps that could be easily removed when off-roading. Seems like something that could easily be adapted to sliders, but perhaps there is no market for it?

Any suggestions appreciated. Thanks.
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The problem with the Predator/N-Fab steps is that the bolt to the body, which is why I took mine off. I can just see it ripping through the body or rockers if I hit something solid. Many companies out there make "0" degree sliders that work well as steps, especially with top plates on them. More expensive and heavier than nerf bars, but they do what they are supposed to do.
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N fab makes a rkr rail step system with a detachable step. If y go II could copy the mounting supports on a real rock slider?
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Yeah, that's what I'm looking for ... What a waste on a fake slider.

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N fab makes a rkr rail step system with a detachable step. If y go II could copy the mounting supports on a real rock slider?
I asked on the original OEM rock rails thread but the topic seemed to be dismissed and the thread is now gone. I wonder if those NFab steps would somehow work with the Toyota OEM rock sliders. I know everyone says they arenít as strong as ďrealĒ sliders but they should be enough for the weekend warrior since they bolt to the frame AND they seem similar in appearance to the Nfab which allow the use of these detachable steps. Maybe someone who already has the OEM rock sliders can see if these fit?

Here are the Nfab steps (currently $40 off for a total $68):
Amazon.com: n-FAB | JPTS32 | RKR Step, Detachable Step, Textured Black, RKR/Rock Rail Detachable Step-Pair Universal Rock Rails / RKR Rails : Automotive

Canít find the original OEM rock rail thread but these seem to be them (someone should confirm the part numbers):
Right - Toyota 2019-2021 Toyota 4Runner Rock Rail Right-Hand Only Both PT228-89190 OEM PT228-89190 | BAM Wholesale Parts
Left - Toyota 2019-2021 Toyota 4Runner Rock Rail Left-Hand Only PT228-89191 OEM PT228-89191 | BAM Wholesale Parts
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Real Sliders with Removable Steps?

If you drill the oem sliders it should work


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I'd say Rockslide Engineering but they don't make anything for Runners.

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I would be doubtful that there is enough metal to thread into.

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I would be doubtful that there is enough metal to thread into.

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Not to the tubing. To the brace


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If you drill the oem sliders it should work


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It appears there are already holes in the OEM sliders for the brackets connecting the inner to outer tubes. I would expect it's just making sure the width of the nfab step tabs match the spacing of these brackets or maybe getting an extra long bolt?
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N fab makes a rkr rail step system with a detachable step. If y go II could copy the mounting supports on a real rock slider?
I've got the N-Fab RKR Rails on mine. I used to take the steps off before going camping or off roading, but I don't bother anymore, and since then I've scraped & bent a couple of the steps while coming down on rocks. They're pretty damn resilient, yet designed to be more sacrificial over other rock sliders.

One of my SR5 buddies have the same system, and he's rougher on his. He's on his second second of RKR Rails (insurance replaced the first set).

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The problem with the Predator/N-Fab steps is that the bolt to the body, which is why I took mine off.

Many companies out there make "0" degree sliders that work well as stepÖ

Thanks for the comment on attaching to the body.

What are your favorites from the many you have seen?
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I replaced my Nfab nerf/steps (fir sale) with Avid 0į rock sliders.
A bit taller than the step was, thus, a bit .more ground clearance at the rockers.
Still makes for a step, and a handy cup holder when opening the door.
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I replaced my Nfab nerf/steps (fir sale) with Avid 0į rock sliders.
A bit taller than the step was, thus, a bit .more ground clearance at the rockers.
Still makes for a step, and a handy cup holder when opening the door.
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Gotta a pic of the new setup?

Thanks for the edit.

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