09-15-2021, 09:01 PM
|
#1
|
Banned
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 693
|
|
Banned
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 693
|
JBA UCA ball joints failing after 2 years
So I recently swapped wheels and tires and took my rig to my local alignment shop, and the JBA ball joints were toasted after 50k miles 2 years, with lots of freeway miles, and the occasional brolander camp trip on forest roads. I reached out to JBA just to see what they thought, and I ended up just swapping in Moog replacements part #K6292. My question is does this sound right? Are ball joints a high fail component and if so, why do Moogs come with a lifetime warranty?
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
09-15-2021, 09:05 PM
|
#2
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Nyc
Posts: 628
|
|
Member
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Nyc
Posts: 628
|
I’ve had my issues with them as well my rebuild kit last a year 12k 99% nyc potholes mild off-road
Time to look for a better solution
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
09-15-2021, 11:55 PM
|
#3
|
Banned
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 693
|
|
Banned
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 693
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mudballz
I’ve had my issues with them as well my rebuild kit last a year 12k 99% nyc potholes mild off-road
Time to look for a better solution
|
With JBA or other Ball joints?
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
09-16-2021, 01:06 AM
|
#4
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: phoenix
Posts: 2,292
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: phoenix
Posts: 2,292
|
ball joints should last a long time. I think you'll have good luck with the Moog ones.
__________________
2016 TE : Grocery Getter, 34/10.5R17 Toyo at3, Prinsu Rack, King Coilovers, DuroBumps, ToyTec HD 2.0 springs, King shocks, King hydro bumps, Total Chaos mounts, DirtKing Fabrication UCA, VIVID RACING Tune, URD Y pipe, RCI skids, Marlin Crawler gussets, DRKDSS everything
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
09-16-2021, 10:36 AM
|
#5
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2020
Posts: 159
|
|
Member
Join Date: Nov 2020
Posts: 159
|
What did JBA say? Didn’t they switch to a different ball joint, or updated the design recently?
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
09-16-2021, 10:57 AM
|
#6
|
|
Elite Member
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Utah
Posts: 5,019
|
|
Elite Member
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Utah
Posts: 5,019
|
I had mine for about 4 years. My first ball joints rusted. They had some with bad coating. They sent me a new set for free. Current set have maybe 20k miles on them and are still tight. - If you don't know, they are adjustable, the upper cap is threaded and you can tighten it down on the preload spring that stabilizes the ball joint as the ball wears. So you can take up the slack if they start to get loose at least up to a point.
I don't really like their design overall on the joint though. It's not sealed at all. I'd much rather have a good sealed joint than one that is marginally stronger. They were going for the strongest option rather than long lasting. The upper ball joint has very little loading on it. There's no reason to go overkill on a really strong joint there. It's better to just have one that lasts a long time.
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
09-16-2021, 12:00 PM
|
#7
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 35
|
|
Member
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 35
|
I've had mine for approx 2 years now. I put 3 or 4 pumps of grease in them every 5000 miles. No problems yet. I also live in North Georgia. No salt or snow.
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
09-16-2021, 01:24 PM
|
#8
|
Banned
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 693
|
|
Banned
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 693
|
Interesting information…I didn’t know the JBAs were adjustable, but after looking at them once they were off, they were toast. The Moogs should be good for years.
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
09-16-2021, 09:56 PM
|
#9
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Fruita, CO
Age: 43
Posts: 3,984
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Fruita, CO
Age: 43
Posts: 3,984
|
Moog ball joints have been garbage for at least the last 10 years
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
09-16-2021, 10:45 PM
|
#10
|
Banned
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 693
|
|
Banned
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 693
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeremy556
Moog ball joints have been garbage for at least the last 10 years
|
Cannot be worse than the stock JBA’s that took a crap on me after two years. Good thing they carry a lifetime warranty. I know the Jba’s do have 90 degrees of articulation so I might just replace the moogs when they shit.
Update after trying to reach JBA about my issues. No response on email, or his automated text messages. I guess he isn’t interested in my complaining about his POS ball joints.
Last edited by YellowSnow; 09-16-2021 at 11:22 PM.
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
09-17-2021, 12:44 AM
|
#11
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: WA
Posts: 108
|
|
Member
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: WA
Posts: 108
|
JBA has updated their ball joints with their own since MOOG has been less than stellar lately.
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
09-17-2021, 12:41 PM
|
#12
|
Banned
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 693
|
|
Banned
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 693
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by ?????
JBA has updated their ball joints with their own since MOOG has been less than stellar lately.
|
Interesting! So here’s what JBA is claiming:
A: The biggest geometry difference between our JBA ball joint and the Moog K6292 is an additional 28 degrees of articulation, nearly a 30% increase! Additional spring clearance is built into the design of our arms to allow the use of the added ball joint articulation to provide more overall suspension travel at full droop
I showed this to my alignment guy and he’s calling BS. He says there is no way they can claim that.
Is JBA just blowing smoke up our asses? Are their claims valid?
Also, they finally responded and told me to file a warranty claim asking for pictures, videos, the old JBA ball joints as documentation. I sent him my order number.
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
09-17-2021, 10:13 PM
|
#13
|
Junior Member
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 6
Real Name: Bart
|
|
Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 6
Real Name: Bart
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by YellowSnow
Cannot be worse than the stock JBA’s that took a crap on me after two years. Good thing they carry a lifetime warranty. I know the Jba’s do have 90 degrees of articulation so I might just replace the moogs when they shit.
Update after trying to reach JBA about my issues. No response on email, or his automated text messages. I guess he isn’t interested in my complaining about his POS ball joints.
|
Yes they can, they have a HD line which is garbage aswell
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
09-18-2021, 11:40 AM
|
#14
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: phoenix
Posts: 2,292
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: phoenix
Posts: 2,292
|
Moog generally has 2 product lines: the sh1t china ones, and the better maybe not made in china ones. My Moog ball joints in my DirtKing uppers have been flawless for 4 years.
__________________
2016 TE : Grocery Getter, 34/10.5R17 Toyo at3, Prinsu Rack, King Coilovers, DuroBumps, ToyTec HD 2.0 springs, King shocks, King hydro bumps, Total Chaos mounts, DirtKing Fabrication UCA, VIVID RACING Tune, URD Y pipe, RCI skids, Marlin Crawler gussets, DRKDSS everything
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
09-18-2021, 01:56 PM
|
#15
|
Banned
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 693
|
|
Banned
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 693
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by honda250xtitan
Moog generally has 2 product lines: the sh1t china ones, and the better maybe not made in china ones. My Moog ball joints in my DirtKing uppers have been flawless for 4 years.
|
This seems to be the case!
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is On
|
|
|
|