09-16-2021, 06:24 PM
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I have a 2022 on order.
I like how in the 5th gen in terms that everything isn't integrated. I don't want things like climate control displays via infotainment screen.
It's a tried and true platform, with huge aftermarket support.
Also, I'm coming from a 2017 Armada. I'm already ahead in fuel economy.
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09-16-2021, 08:47 PM
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Fuel economy is the one complaint I have with my 2021 TRD Pro. I was surprised that the Bronco does not get a huge amount better, so it makes me wonder how much better even a hybrid 4Runner would be. It probably would be much better around town, but who knows. We have a 2013 Lexus RX450h (hybrid) and it gets around 23mpg around town. OK but not great. Ethanol and short drives kill fuel economy.
I usually don't mod cars, but have done quite a few mods to my 4Runner and I am impressed with how spacious and relatively simple the engine bay is. I really like that good old 4L V6.
My 911 is a 3L flat six twin turbo and makes 420hp. I love turbos on that car, but not on a 4Runner.
So I might tend towards getting a 5th Gen if you want a very reliable do anything vehicle. If the 6th gen is too fantastic to resist, then the 5th gen will be a valuable trade-in.
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09-17-2021, 03:01 PM
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I have a 2022 on order and am glad I pulled the trigger given the rumors about the next Gen. I think Gen 5’s will hold their value as many people will want to have the V6 engine.
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09-17-2021, 03:08 PM
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I got in touch with a bunch of dealers and 4Runners are hard to get, Trail would be very hard to get, there are not many of them made and allocated.
Some dealers said they get one per year at most.
MSRP, no discount.
Funny thing it's supposed to be 'cheap' model.
I paid 41K CAD 11 years ago, now I am looking at 55K at least. They tell me the inflation is 2%, LOL.
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09-17-2021, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BorotHex
There’s going to be a 2021 with 9,000 miles on it in my town tomorrow. Trading on a 2022 off-road Frontier. Just got off the phone.
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I am digging the new Frontier and once resale on a ‘21 Armada hits low enough, I really might add one.
The Armada is really tempting only offset by having to ever go to a Nissan dealership. That said, now that they seem to he ditching the CVT down the line, maybe it won’t be quite as bad.
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09-17-2021, 04:48 PM
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According to Carmaker1 on the 6th gen forum, the new gen is delayed until MY2024 at the earliest. The MY2023 will still be a 5th gen.
So we all have a little more time to get a Tahara-built one. Hopefully by then the chip shortage will be minimizing and we can get more normal inventories/allocations
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09-17-2021, 07:58 PM
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They tell me the inflation is 2%, LOL.
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Except for automobiles, real estate, power, equipment, lumber, fuel, beef, pork, chicken, and bandwidth... it is.
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09-17-2021, 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 3xranger
I have a 2022 on order and am glad I pulled the trigger given the rumors about the next Gen. I think Gen 5Â’s will hold their value as many people will want to have the V6 engine.
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When did you order it? What model/options did you order? They wouldn't even let me order a 22 as of last week because of the Tahara shutdown.
I love all the upgrades on the 22 TRD Off Road Prem and couldn't wait til the next gen.
So I put money down on a super white 22 TRD ORP today that supposedly is in port in Houston and will be in Dallas by the end of the month. Definite sellers market as I had to practically beg them to sell it out of state as I'm in Oklahoma now and couldn't get the option(Off-Road Premium Plus Package— Multi-Terrain Monitor MTM) that I wanted up here. It was a special order that someone cancelled.
Paid $370 under invoice (47k)for the white but the other one I found at port with MTM was the Lunar Rock color and a San Antonio dealer wouldn't give me a price or let me buy it. Said it would be $3000 or 5000 over msrp because of the color and very limited future supply. I was on the fence with the LR color anyways so that pretty much made up my mind and went back to my original super white.
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09-18-2021, 08:05 PM
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09-19-2021, 12:39 AM
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I feel like I was incredibly stupidly lucky to get my TRD Pro for MSRP last February. I had to wait a few weeks for it to arrive, but that was before the whole shortage thing hit. Now is just the worst time to buy a car.
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09-19-2021, 11:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tokyo rebuilt
According to Carmaker1 on the 6th gen forum, the new gen is delayed until MY2024 at the earliest. The MY2023 will still be a 5th gen.
So we all have a little more time to get a Tahara-built one. Hopefully by then the chip shortage will be minimizing and we can get more normal inventories/allocations
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I think by next spring things will be back to normal, definitely by this time next year when the 23s are arriving, perhaps the last of the old tech 4runner.
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09-27-2021, 03:34 PM
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I'd wait because the prices are incredibly high right now, plus the new one might be good on gas
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09-27-2021, 03:41 PM
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I put a deposit on Army Green (the only color this year) Trail.
There was one sold vehicle in all of Canada's inventory and I was told I'll have to wait till January, may be February.
This is limited production and most dealerships get one or zero in this trim.
Other trims are more readily available, I was offered TRD Prod right away.
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09-27-2021, 03:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by h&t
I got in touch with a bunch of dealers and 4Runners are hard to get, Trail would be very hard to get, there are not many of them made and allocated.
Some dealers said they get one per year at most.
MSRP, no discount.
Funny thing it's supposed to be 'cheap' model.
I paid 41K CAD 11 years ago, now I am looking at 55K at least. They tell me the inflation is 2%, LOL.
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It's called compounding... @ 2% you are at $51k for the same $41k. Add additional features and safety equipment and you are at $55k. Or, run the same analysis at 3% inflation and your $41k becomes $57k after 11 years.
2010 - $41000
2011 - $41820
2012 - $42656.4
2013 - $43509.528
2014 - $44379.71856
2015 - $45267.31293
2016 - $46172.65919
2017 - $47096.11237
2018 - $48038.03462
2019 - $48998.79531
2020 - $49978.77122
2021 - $50978.34664
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09-27-2021, 03:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bmnorm2
It's called compounding... @ 2% you are at $51k for the same $41k. Add additional features and safety equipment and you are at $55k. Or, run the same analysis at 3% inflation and your $41k becomes $57k after 11 years.
2010 - $41000
2011 - $41820
2012 - $42656.4
2013 - $43509.528
2014 - $44379.71856
2015 - $45267.31293
2016 - $46172.65919
2017 - $47096.11237
2018 - $48038.03462
2019 - $48998.79531
2020 - $49978.77122
2021 - $50978.34664
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You're actually right on the money (duh!)
Bank of Canada inflation calculator comes at 50,099 at 1.84% annual
Thanks for the exercise. I am sort of aware of how it works ;)
but it's a good reminder, I am getting old, sorry.
Soon I am going to be like - What!!! A cup of coffee doesn't cost a dollar anymore?!!!
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