Originally Posted by pveezy

I just went through this and decided to buy a 2022 now. Here is some of my thinking.

1. I KNOW I like the 5th gen. Maybe I won’t like the 6th gen? Maybe the pricing will be stupid? Who knows. It will probably be great, but we won’t know for a while and I’d rather just have the one I like now. And 5th gens hold their value so well that if you REALLY want a 6th gen you can probably trade it in without a big loss. Most of the things people like about the 5th gen on here are things that the average consumer complains about so we can only hope Toyota holds the line on the next one and doesn’t minivan-ize it like most of the competition.

2. I personally don’t care about fuel economy. I have a take home work truck that handles my commute. Wife is on mat leave and will probably be working from home after. We live in a small town. Don’t care about fuel mileage. A lot of the stuff companies do to increase fuel mileage (turbo engines, 45 speed automatic transmissions, lightening chassis, stop-start engines, hybrids, CVTs, etc) can actually be more annoying than the bad fuel economy.

3. I really don’t like the idea of buying any new vehicle in the first model year. Even a Toyota. Have had nothing but issues and heard nothing but issues from people who have done that. 5th gen is a known quantity and pretty bulletproof.

Originally Posted by harper7

Sweet , You got it from Cavender Toyota then? They called yesterday and said they had another 22 LR available but just with the moonroof.

I had called Cavender a couple of weeks ago to see if who ever ordered the one with the MTM(you?) might back out. The only ones in the gulf states regions with the Multi Terrain Monitor option were ordered by an individual as Gulf States only ordered them with the moonroof option and then they put their regional add ons at port in Houston.

I had money down on a white one in Dallas that was still on a ship and then Universal Toyota in San Antonio called last week and said somebody ordered and then backed out of a Army Green coming in one with the MTM option(PO) I wanted and immediately put money down and bought it.

It just got unloaded off the truck a few hours ago and I'm flying down to pick it up Saturday morning .

Originally Posted by Old Tanker

All too often, new model years are inferior to their predecessors. Better to have purchased a 1970 ZR1 Corvette with a 470 HP engine than a 1972 with 255 HP. Better to have purchased a late first gen Bronco than an early second gen. This is especially true when redesigns are heavily influenced by external considerations such as Green energy. I think the 5th Gen is likely the last of the breed.

Originally Posted by dohc97

I am very much interested in getting a 4Runner TRD Sport. Got a quote from a dealer. The quote came with a lot of packages I have no interest in getting;

all weather floor liner/cargo tray package - 269

emergency assistance kit - 59

doo edge guard - 79

LED fog light(I thought fog lights came with the Sport) - 169

dual power port/quick charge cable package - 199

alloy wheel lock - 80



Can I get them to take these ridiculous items out of the car? How do I deal with this?

Originally Posted by dohc97

I am very much interested in getting a 4Runner TRD Sport. Got a quote from a dealer. The quote came with a lot of packages I have no interest in getting;

all weather floor liner/cargo tray package - 269

emergency assistance kit - 59

doo edge guard - 79

LED fog light(I thought fog lights came with the Sport) - 169

dual power port/quick charge cable package - 199

alloy wheel lock - 80



Can I get them to take these ridiculous items out of the car? How do I deal with this?

Originally Posted by 5thToy

Your dealer is playing with pennies. Consider yourself lucky. I started from a negotiation position trying to eliminate almost $3K worth of dealer add-ons.

Originally Posted by dohc97

I am very much interested in getting a 4Runner TRD Sport. Got a quote from a dealer. The quote came with a lot of packages I have no interest in getting;

all weather floor liner/cargo tray package - 269

emergency assistance kit - 59

doo edge guard - 79

LED fog light(I thought fog lights came with the Sport) - 169

dual power port/quick charge cable package - 199

alloy wheel lock - 80



Can I get them to take these ridiculous items out of the car? How do I deal with this?

Originally Posted by h&t

Hi all,

I drive 2011 4R, had it since new, 11 years next month.
I had 96 4R before for many years. Love them.

The 2011 is getting old, I could drive it few more years, but I'll have to replace it within 2-3 years. In Ontario, Canada they rust a lot and I have to have reliable vehicle for my long trips into the outdoors.

The question is buy now or wait until redesign which is expected for 2023?

I am quite happy with the current one, the only reason to wait would be better fuel consumption, reportedly they plan 2.4 Turbo and 7-8 speed transmission.
OTOH, most things don't get better with redesigns these days. Some people don't like turbo engines. I plan to keep it for 10 or more years.

What do you think?
BTW, 2 of my neighbors had their 4r and highlander stolen TWICE within the last 2 years. Both had smart keys.
I am thinking of ordering Trail (which I understand has a regular key) for that reason only.

Originally Posted by h&t

This is not likely. COVID pandemic created shortage of many things, 4runners is one of them, esp. Trail trim. As I said, I am speficially interested in Trail due to regular key and no Push Button start. It probably sounds crazy to a lot of people, but looks like I live in the centre of Toyota stealing universe.