Does anyone have brakes that really grab under slight foot pedal pressure. Mine seem to grab fast and hard with very little pressure. I noticed it after I had my battery disconnected for a while installing a remote start. Did I miss doing something correct when reconnecting the battery?

4Runner’s brakes are (and should be) very soft compared to my previous vehicle - 2020 Range Rover Evoque. Those were so grabby it made me appear to be a bad driver. No way to feather them because they’d change intensity despite steady light pressure coasting to a stop.

Is the issue ^^ this bad that your passengers get annoyed or can it be overcome with driving style? My issue could not. Also, are you getting any warning lights when braking? ABS, unless an actual error, is usually momentary and gone by the time you release the brake.


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Its to the point where I have to think about how to brake when braking. No error codes or lights. I'm beginning to think I have a bad brake booster or actuator.

My 17' OR did this from brand new. I replaced the rotors with Raybestos slotted units and Akebono ceramic pads. This stopped all the issues, including the common creeping issue at stoplights. The brakes also felt at a minimum 25% stronger in braking power.

I now have a 21' ORP and have yet to have any of the prior issues. I was ready to order all of the above parts right from the start but they have been fine, so I'm just waiting.

its normal, and the brake dive makes it even more dramatic.

FWIW - the easy way to tell if something is wrong is to go test drive another new one. I would not say mine has grabby brakes. Usually the opposite. Except under the "emergency" braking where the ECU identifies a very fast transition from gas to brake and then will apply IIRC 3 times the brake line pressure. It'll stop PDQ if it needs to. But it'll catch you by surprise when it does it the first time. It's possible you have some error in a sensor that's causing it to do this. Or that's it's normal and takes some getting used to. It's hard to describe things over the internet or for us to compare. Go test drive another one. If yours is different - have Toyota check it out. They should fix it if something is wrong. And it's not something you could do by disconnecting the battery.

Thanks for the explanation, makes that bizarre nose dive more understandable.

It shouldn't happen very often. Depends on driving, but I've had it happen maybe 3 times in 7 years. If it's happening a lot it's probably not right.

IIRC, there is a TSB about lifting the TSS equipped (2020 and up) models can possibly cause issues.