01-06-2022, 12:29 PM
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For rust prevention, spray Fluid Film all throughout bottom and inside door panels. I spray it two times a year.
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How would silicone spray (like power companies use on their nonconductive tools) work for providing this coating?
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01-06-2022, 01:25 PM
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Rare big snow here in Middle TN.
4H and some skinny pedal
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01-07-2022, 12:03 PM
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I live in north-central Nevada. I run an ‘18 SR5 with BFG All Terrain T/A KO2s. The nearby interstate gets all the attention, but in town and in the county plowing isn’t a priority so snow and ice gets deep and icy.
I’ve lived and driven in the snow since I started driving five decades ago.
When the roads are snow covered, I’m in 4WD high range. There are times my 4Runner is left in 4WD for long periods of time because of little or no snow melt. I avoid sudden acceleration, turns and braking. If the street or roads are icy but have lengthy areas that are dry, I shift in and out of 4WD. If corners are dry I’ll either shift into 2WD or widen my turn to minimize drivetrain wind up.
My other vehicle is a ‘12 Subaru Outback. It’s also an excellent snow car. Since it’s full time 4x4 with automatic torque vectoring it’s easier to drive in alternating snow/ice/dry condtions.
I could never understand the thinking of those who are driving 4WD vehicles in snow conditions that are sitting there spinning their back wheels going nowhere or barely in control …
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01-07-2022, 03:37 PM
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On a crowded urban roads just use 4WD high. Drive defensively and the truck will get you home fine. Finally had a chance to use it the other day and its even more planted. No violating laws of physics. Just plain sense.
More snow please. Want to try it in 6 to 10"
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come and take the snow from canada. If I never saw snow again I wouldn't even be fussed. the other day it was near -10 F outside with windchill.
driving in the snow is fun like a handful of times after the first snowfall and when no one else is on the roads. commuting or driving through the snow with many other drivers around you gets old real fast. also sucks when you come out in the morning and your windows are all iced over from the night before.
I could tolerate warmer winters where the snow melts rather quickly but ice and eyeball freezing windchills, no one likes those
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01-07-2022, 04:06 PM
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01-07-2022, 07:48 PM
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air down
I am running Kumho AT51 tires with the mountain/snowflake symbol year round, they are technically considered snow tires, but they are not anywhere as good as true snow tires with the softer compound. Once the snow settles in here, I generally air down the tires, at least for around town driving and going up to Mt Bachelor when I'll be on snow all the way. It increases tire surface area on the road, thus increases traction. I do like to hit the mud/sand/dirt MTS mode since it will work in 4H. Not sure if it helps a whole lot, but it does work as bit more advance traction control cutting power while still allowing some wheel spin than the standard traction control.
In town you have to get used to pulling out of snow covered local streets onto the cleared major streets, which requires starting in 4H to get moving quickly and then shifting out as you turn onto the cleared pavement. That maneuver was a lot trickier in my old '94 Isuzu Trooper with a 5 spd manual, which required both shifting from 1-2 and out of 4H while turning and accelerating onto the cleared street. Good times!
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01-07-2022, 10:14 PM
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I replaced a ‘02 Tacoma TRD with my ‘18 SR5, the Tacoma was equipped with the optional pushbutton 4-HI engagement button on the side of the transfer case shift lever (the lever only shifted between high and low ranges plus neutral). That was far easier to shift in and out of 4WD than the rotary knob of the 4Runner as it didn’t require one to take their eyes off the road, reach forward and across the console, and push in the lockout button.
The 4WD button on the Tacoma was simply push and go. But it also could be accidentally engaged without knowing, even with the truck shut down. Once, a year or so after I bought the truck new, I got in the truck and drove 60 miles along 65 mph highways home from work on a warm July day; not realizing that I was in 4-HI until I turned right up my street and felt the crow hop. The truck is still in the family, with well over 200k miles, all its OEM parts and never has experienced any drivetrain issues.
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01-08-2022, 02:11 AM
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Once the snow settles in here, I generally air down the tires, at least for around town driving and going up to Mt Bachelor when I'll be on snow all the way. It increases tire surface area on the road, thus increases traction.
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What do you usually drop your PSI down to for driving around town?
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01-08-2022, 04:41 PM
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I've been running about 15psi when it was deep snow over everything, but I'm going to air back up to 25 or so now for mixed snow/dry driving.
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01-08-2022, 06:28 PM
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Another important thing to be aware of in snow is driveshaft bind induced understeer. (This warning does not apply to the Limited unless you have locked your center diff.)
Imagine going down a slippery hill in 4H, approaching a sharp turn. You turn the steering wheel. The outside front tire, because it can't turn as much as it needs to, has to slide across the snow. In a turn, the outside front does most of the work. Since it has lost contact with the snow, you continue straight.
The solution is to go slower. The sharper the turn the slower you're going anyways, so there's that. But it's something to be aware of.
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wife has an SR5 Premium, even turning off trac control still cant do donuts. Some sort of trac contriol always kicks in. Am i missing something, or because i dont have MTS i cant do them.
But other than that i run Snow specific tires in the winter on stock wheels, summer tires on after market wheels
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01-08-2022, 06:31 PM
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wife has an SR5 Premium, even turning off trac control still cant do donuts. Some sort of trac contriol always kicks in. Am i missing something, or because i dont have MTS i cant do them.
But other than that i run Snow specific tires in the winter on stock wheels, summer tires on after market wheels
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Hold the trac off button for about 3 seconds to turn off VSC as well
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01-08-2022, 06:46 PM
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Hold the trac off button for about 3 seconds to turn off VSC as well
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Thanks for the info. i will def have to try that. I put the wrong quote b efore but thank you for the info.
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01-08-2022, 07:38 PM
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Yep here we go again. Driving around Toronto or any large Canadian city in the winter is basically a big pain. Nobody thought ahead to engineer roads with wider shoulder areas to push snow to except the recent re-building. A lot of drivers here came from countries with no winters. Add to that our 400 series of highways which become death traps even when its dry. Add snow with thousands of drivers and it becomes a big disaster really fast. Ever driven in Montreal ? Way worse roads but more aggressive Francophone drivers.... Tabernaque !!!
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01-10-2022, 10:12 AM
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Yep here we go again. Driving around Toronto or any large Canadian city in the winter is basically a big pain. Nobody thought ahead to engineer roads with wider shoulder areas to push snow to except the recent re-building. A lot of drivers here came from countries with no winters. Add to that our 400 series of highways which become death traps even when its dry. Add snow with thousands of drivers and it becomes a big disaster really fast. Ever driven in Montreal ? Way worse roads but more aggressive Francophone drivers.... Tabernaque !!!
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I use the 407 exclusively now when I have to go through toronto or anywhere near the hamilton area. I avoid the 401 through toronto, 403 and QEW as much as I can when I'm on the road. it's well worth the cost to me
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01-12-2022, 03:11 PM
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Yeah the 407 nice
I run K02s in summer, but for snow winter I use dedicated Blizzak snow tires. The K02s lack siping for water, ice and wet stuff. Plus the tread is softer in the cold on the blizzaks.
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