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Originally Posted by the_economist
The way forums work is people who have actually bought and field tested products recommend them based on real-world experience. Not making uninformed criticisms of other peoples recommendations for products you clearly have never bought or used.
In this case, you clearly don’t own a pair of these chains — you’re just looking at a website description and making silly claims about them from your couch in SoCal.
For one, I have use these chains on 275 KO2s for three seasons, and I’ve driven >5 miles in ice on Highway 50 in them, they are proven tough in practice. Also, the tightening ring is polymer, just like the bottom half of a Glock pistol, not plastic. As far as them being “hardened” steel, you can read the product description for the exact specs on why these are lighter than traditional steel chains but retain strength. And you can also read the design specs behind the diamond pattern.
Just because you paid three times as much for an inferior solution doesnÂ’t mean you should be butt hurt and slam other peoples recommendations on the forum.
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Please note that I was addressing the differences in the suggested products and not making a personal attack or condemnation of your purchases. Obviously, you took it personally and are trying to rationalize YOUR purchase by making personal attacks on me and you're lecturing me on how forums work?
Just a week ago I drove from Missoula to Butte through 3" of snow over ice and I never even used chains. This was the start of our trip from our ranch in Stevensville, Montana to our home in Fullerton, California. We also have a home on Big Bear Lake, which is at 6,750' elevation and regularly sees snow, sometimes up to 2' of snow. Several times I have driven the length of Utah in snow up to 1' deep, ending just above St. George. I have driven from Montana to St. George in snow conditions. We're not talking about 5 miles. So your "SoCal Couch potato" attack is entirely inaccurate as are all your other claims. This includes your comparison of a plastic (polymer) Glock Lower to a plastic (polymer) retaining chain on a set of tire chains because the uses and forces are entirely different. It does not take an engineering degree to know that a polymer gun lower held in a hand sees nowhere near the forces that a polymer retainer chain sees from cross chains grabbing at pavement under several hundred ft lbs of torque from a truck. And for the record: "The Glock's frame, magazine body, and several other components are made from a high-strength nylon -based polymer invented by Gaston Glock, called Polymer 2. This
plastic was specially formulated to provide increased durability and is more resilient than carbon steel and most steel alloys." Let's look at the definition of resilient: "(of a substance or object) able to recoil or spring back into shape after bending, stretching, or being compressed." Hmmm, sounds just like the plastic I'd want to see on a set of snow chains.
The OP wanted recommendations for GOOD chains and I and others provided that. You bought the cheap chains presumably because they are easy to install and they got you through 5 miles on highway 50. The OP is now fully informed and can make his own decisions. Enjoy your 5 mile drive in snow every couple years, I'm sure it's a nail biting yarn you spin to family and friends around the dinner table.