12-28-2021, 03:23 PM
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Toyota announced they will be producing over 800,000 cars in January 2022, which is a record total. Reportedly hundreds of thousands of nearly completed cars waiting for chips to install. When that inventory gets dumped onto the market, things will start correcting back to normal.
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12-28-2021, 04:18 PM
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There are few limited in charlotte area Nc
Toyota of concord has 2 black
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12-28-2021, 06:26 PM
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I know here in NH they issue temp plates which can make it easier. I bought mine in Massachusetts and it was a sucky experience. I had 2 cars and I had sold them both already. But one was being shipped to California and we had no pickup date and the guy was okay with me driving it a few more days. It took a week from when I bought it to when I was actually able to take delivery.
And to be honest I think the new Jeeps look nice too. But I would never expect them to even be remotely as reliable as a 4Runner. I have never known anyone in the last 25 years who has had a 100k mile chrysler product that's been anything close to a Toyota ownership experience. Drive them a few years and dump them. Might as well lease.
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12-28-2021, 08:43 PM
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For the difference in price, I’d go GX.
I’m currently dealing with a similar challenge. Only looking for a 22 Pro to replace my 19. Hate lime rush and don’t really want another black. I have a modest amount of bolt ons that I’d like to transfer to the 22, but I’ve been starting to lean toward the special edition Nori Green GX. It’s 5k more than the Pro and my local dealer will not sell above MSRP, which may not be the case on a Pro. I’d really miss some of the off road features because I have effectively used them all, but I’m tired of boring black. With the 22 GX now equipped with CarPlay, it’s a tighter decision. My reasons for upgrading - CarPlay, upgraded headlights (though I have retrofit bi xenon), multi terrain camera and safety sense. The GX checks all the boxes, sans multi terrain in the special edition trim.
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12-28-2021, 08:43 PM
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Ever think that there is a reason WHY Jeeps are plentiful and 4Runners are hard to find?
We had a Cherokee and it was the worst 4x4 we've ever had==out of a dozen. Marginally better than my Subaru BRAT. Never used off-road, just on road. Repairs cost more than the payments did for the year we had it! We've had 2 RAV4, 1 Scout, 2 4WD Toyota p/u, two Pathfinders, 1 Frontier, 1 Xterra, 1 Jeep, Subaru Brat, 1 Ramcharger, and 2 FJ40s. In over 20 years as a Wildlife Biologist for the FEDs, I've driven another dozen different rigs=all American made.For what it is worth, our 2019 SR5 Premium is the best rig we've had except MAYBE my 1985 SR5 pick-up.
Seek and you shall find!
FWIW: Wife loves her AWD RAV4, also.
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12-28-2021, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Whippersnapper02
If you're going for a Limited, maybe look at the GX.
Personally I think the new Grand Cherokees look really nice.
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Agree with the GX idea.
Agree with the looks of the GCherokee. On the other hand, I can't imagine comparing a 4Runner to a Jeep. From a longevity and build-quality perspective.
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12-28-2021, 10:52 PM
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Ever think that there is a reason WHY Jeeps are plentiful and 4Runners are hard to find?
We had a Cherokee and it was the worst 4x4 we've ever had==out of a dozen. Marginally better than my Subaru BRAT. Never used off-road, just on road. Repairs cost more than the payments did for the year we had it! We've had 2 RAV4, 1 Scout, 2 4WD Toyota p/u, two Pathfinders, 1 Frontier, 1 Xterra, 1 Jeep, Subaru Brat, 1 Ramcharger, and 2 FJ40s. In over 20 years as a Wildlife Biologist for the FEDs, I've driven another dozen different rigs=all American made.For what it is worth, our 2019 SR5 Premium is the best rig we've had except MAYBE my 1985 SR5 pick-up.
Seek and you shall find!
FWIW: Wife loves her AWD RAV4, also.
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Bonus points for the Subaru Brat!
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12-28-2021, 11:19 PM
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As a former Jeep owner: Wait.
Drive a Civic or a Corolla in the meantime.
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12-28-2021, 11:21 PM
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Can't get the runner I want. No one has inventory. Prices have gone beyond the stratosphere. Dealers won't even trade with each other. I've tried out of state dealers, and most won't/can't/aren't setup to do out-of-state deals.
Every dealer I've talked with -- 17 at this point -- don't even know when or if they'll get any more into their inventory. Base models are relatively easy to come by, but not the trims needed for the family.
I don't have time on my side. I need a new car in the next few weeks.
It's looking grim.
Today, just down the road, I can get a brand new Jeep Grand Cherokee L. Right now. With far more factory pricing incentives, and a dealer who will negotiate the base price to begin with.
It's an extraordinarily beautifully made SUV and I'm sure it's more than capable offroad. But it's not my long-beloved 4Runner...
Someone talk me out of this ;-)
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Most already replied. I love LTD due to TORSEN and for about $2k can add a better suspension than PRO. MANY of these available slightly pre-owned. If you want a dedicated color / TRIM (like that rad green TRD Pro) than you are not that desperate (needs vs wants). The jeep will DROP in major value FAST and is a POS. Would rather buy a 4th gen (MANY on FB marketplace for $9k-$15k with approx. 150k miles) over a jeep. Clean it up, drive until the supply block is eased, and sell it when they get the one you want in.
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12-28-2021, 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Lewis&Clark
Can't get the runner I want. No one has inventory. Prices have gone beyond the stratosphere. Dealers won't even trade with each other. I've tried out of state dealers, and most won't/can't/aren't setup to do out-of-state deals.
Every dealer I've talked with -- 17 at this point -- don't even know when or if they'll get any more into their inventory. Base models are relatively easy to come by, but not the trims needed for the family.
I don't have time on my side. I need a new car in the next few weeks.
It's looking grim.
Today, just down the road, I can get a brand new Jeep Grand Cherokee L. Right now. With far more factory pricing incentives, and a dealer who will negotiate the base price to begin with.
It's an extraordinarily beautifully made SUV and I'm sure it's more than capable offroad. But it's not my long-beloved 4Runner...
Someone talk me out of this ;-)
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I hated my Grand Cherokee. Kept it four months.
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12-29-2021, 12:45 AM
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I bought a ‘22 TRD Off-Road Premium on Thursday night. I called many Phoenix area dealers for a week prior and got stories that ranged from 5k over MSRP to “we don’t have any in stock and we’re taking reservations and you’re #37”.
I ended up buying from Earnhardt Toyota in Mesa for MSRP. On Thursday, they had twelve in stock, including TRD Off-Roads and Trail editions in Army Green. Avondale Toyota called me yesterday to ask me to come in because they had received a shipment and they were not selling over MSRP. Avondale salesman told me that he gets out-of-state buyers all the time, including many from California.
Give those dealerships a call and see what they can do for you.
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12-29-2021, 01:34 AM
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Try contacting Erin Biats @ Motorcars Toyota in Cleveland. I'm in California and I bought my '21 TRD Pro from her this year. Easy to deal with and she won't tell you stories.
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12-29-2021, 01:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis&Clark
Can't get the runner I want. No one has inventory. Prices have gone beyond the stratosphere. Dealers won't even trade with each other. I've tried out of state dealers, and most won't/can't/aren't setup to do out-of-state deals.
Every dealer I've talked with -- 17 at this point -- don't even know when or if they'll get any more into their inventory. Base models are relatively easy to come by, but not the trims needed for the family.
I don't have time on my side. I need a new car in the next few weeks.
It's looking grim.
Today, just down the road, I can get a brand new Jeep Grand Cherokee L. Right now. With far more factory pricing incentives, and a dealer who will negotiate the base price to begin with.
It's an extraordinarily beautifully made SUV and I'm sure it's more than capable offroad. But it's not my long-beloved 4Runner...
Someone talk me out of this ;-)
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I have a 2021 White TRD Pro with 9,000 miles. Tinted windows / RSG Sliders / Blacked out badging. For $65k I’ll sell it to you tonight.
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12-29-2021, 07:38 AM
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JGC looks nice and is magnitudes above a 4runner in terms of road comfort, but I've seen so many people with problems after a few years I wouldn't touch one. I'd put them in the same category as range rovers where it's great if you are only keeping it until the warranty wears out and then trading it in.
As far as more than capable off-road.....if off road is a dirt road leading to a camp site sure, Anything rowdier than that and I wouldn't push it. I'd probably trust a Subaru before a JGC for offroading. New outbacks are pretty damn nice to be honest.
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12-29-2021, 09:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Whippersnapper02
If you're going for a Limited, maybe look at the GX.
Personally I think the new Grand Cherokees look really nice.
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I agree. I had a 2019 GX (traded for a 4 runner) and it's just as nice as a Limited. Of course, it gets absolutely horrendous gas mileage 12-13 mpg which is worse than the 4 runner (not much), but you will likely be able to find one out there. In fact, my local Toyota dealer had a 2020 ORP on the lot (used) listed at $58,000. Right next to it was a 2020 GX Premium (used) for $50,000. Both had roughly 20K miles. For whatever reason, people have lost their minds about getting their hands on a 4 Runner.
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