Home Menu

Site Navigation


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 01-11-2022, 11:15 AM #1
Lexington's Avatar
Lexington Lexington is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posts: 582
Lexington is a jewel in the rough Lexington is a jewel in the rough Lexington is a jewel in the rough
Lexington Lexington is offline
Member
Lexington's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posts: 582
Lexington is a jewel in the rough Lexington is a jewel in the rough Lexington is a jewel in the rough
Center Differential

Curiosity question. In the 4Runner series, which 4Runners come with a
a center differential, SR5 and the limited?

Thanks
Lexington is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-11-2022, 11:20 AM #2
progress4m's Avatar
progress4m progress4m is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Aledo, TX
Posts: 945
progress4m will become famous soon enough progress4m will become famous soon enough
progress4m progress4m is offline
Member
progress4m's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Aledo, TX
Posts: 945
progress4m will become famous soon enough progress4m will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lexington View Post
Curiosity question. In the 4Runner series, which 4Runners come with a
a center differential, SR5 and the limited?

Thanks
Limited only -for 5th (current) generation 4Runner that is.
__________________
2013 Silver Trail (with KDSS)-Nitto TG-G2, Bilstein 5100, Custom lift: front 2.1", rear 1.5" (lift info: [URL=https://www.toyota-4runner.org/2938235-post744.html[/URL] thread #744)
1995 SR5 4x4, 1996 SR5 4x4, 2005 SR5 V8 4x4- All Sold, but not forgotten!
DON'T GET CONFUSED BETWEEN MY PERSONALITY AND MY ATTITUDE. MY PERSONALITY IS WHO I AM...MY ATTITUDE DEPENDS ON WHO YOU ARE
progress4m is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-11-2022, 11:51 AM #3
2021nightshade4x4 2021nightshade4x4 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2021
Posts: 1,283
2021nightshade4x4 is just really nice 2021nightshade4x4 is just really nice 2021nightshade4x4 is just really nice 2021nightshade4x4 is just really nice 2021nightshade4x4 is just really nice
2021nightshade4x4 2021nightshade4x4 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2021
Posts: 1,283
2021nightshade4x4 is just really nice 2021nightshade4x4 is just really nice 2021nightshade4x4 is just really nice 2021nightshade4x4 is just really nice 2021nightshade4x4 is just really nice
Quote:
Originally Posted by progress4m View Post
Limited only -for 5th (current) generation 4Runner that is.

Having that H4F on the dial is where it’s at!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
2021nightshade4x4 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-11-2022, 11:59 AM #4
Lexington's Avatar
Lexington Lexington is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posts: 582
Lexington is a jewel in the rough Lexington is a jewel in the rough Lexington is a jewel in the rough
Lexington Lexington is offline
Member
Lexington's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posts: 582
Lexington is a jewel in the rough Lexington is a jewel in the rough Lexington is a jewel in the rough
Quote:
Originally Posted by progress4m View Post
Limited only -for 5th (current) generation 4Runner that is.
Ok thanks. I knew the limited had it for sure but I wasn’t sure about the SR5.
Lexington is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-11-2022, 01:05 PM #5
Captain Planet's Avatar
Captain Planet Captain Planet is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: NJ
Posts: 128
Captain Planet will become famous soon enough
Captain Planet Captain Planet is offline
Member
Captain Planet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: NJ
Posts: 128
Captain Planet will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2021nightshade4x4 View Post
Having that H4F on the dial is where it’s at!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I'd rather have a transfer case.
Captain Planet is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-11-2022, 01:38 PM #6
Whippersnapper02's Avatar
Whippersnapper02 Whippersnapper02 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: OC, Derpifornia
Age: 40
Posts: 1,244
Whippersnapper02 has much to be proud of Whippersnapper02 has much to be proud of Whippersnapper02 has much to be proud of Whippersnapper02 has much to be proud of Whippersnapper02 has much to be proud of Whippersnapper02 has much to be proud of Whippersnapper02 has much to be proud of Whippersnapper02 has much to be proud of
Whippersnapper02 Whippersnapper02 is offline
Senior Member
Whippersnapper02's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: OC, Derpifornia
Age: 40
Posts: 1,244
Whippersnapper02 has much to be proud of Whippersnapper02 has much to be proud of Whippersnapper02 has much to be proud of Whippersnapper02 has much to be proud of Whippersnapper02 has much to be proud of Whippersnapper02 has much to be proud of Whippersnapper02 has much to be proud of Whippersnapper02 has much to be proud of
Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Planet View Post
I'd rather have a transfer case.
You still have one but with a full time 4wd (AWD) option. I'd like AWD and would have liked it in my supercharged Tacoma.
__________________
2019 Runner TRD Offroad Premium w/KDSS
Whippersnapper02 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-11-2022, 02:58 PM #7
Captain Planet's Avatar
Captain Planet Captain Planet is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: NJ
Posts: 128
Captain Planet will become famous soon enough
Captain Planet Captain Planet is offline
Member
Captain Planet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: NJ
Posts: 128
Captain Planet will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by Whippersnapper02 View Post
You still have one but with a full time 4wd (AWD) option. I'd like AWD and would have liked it in my supercharged Tacoma.
You don't have a transfer case in a Limited.

You have a center diff that can lock.
Captain Planet is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-11-2022, 03:09 PM #8
2021nightshade4x4 2021nightshade4x4 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2021
Posts: 1,283
2021nightshade4x4 is just really nice 2021nightshade4x4 is just really nice 2021nightshade4x4 is just really nice 2021nightshade4x4 is just really nice 2021nightshade4x4 is just really nice
2021nightshade4x4 2021nightshade4x4 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2021
Posts: 1,283
2021nightshade4x4 is just really nice 2021nightshade4x4 is just really nice 2021nightshade4x4 is just really nice 2021nightshade4x4 is just really nice 2021nightshade4x4 is just really nice
Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Planet View Post
You don't have a transfer case in a Limited.

You have a center diff that can lock.

What about LO Range? Still a center diff?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
2021nightshade4x4 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-11-2022, 03:17 PM #9
02SE 02SE is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Here, There..
Posts: 3,780
02SE is a splendid one to behold 02SE is a splendid one to behold 02SE is a splendid one to behold 02SE is a splendid one to behold 02SE is a splendid one to behold 02SE is a splendid one to behold 02SE is a splendid one to behold
02SE 02SE is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Here, There..
Posts: 3,780
02SE is a splendid one to behold 02SE is a splendid one to behold 02SE is a splendid one to behold 02SE is a splendid one to behold 02SE is a splendid one to behold 02SE is a splendid one to behold 02SE is a splendid one to behold
Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Planet View Post
You don't have a transfer case in a Limited.

You have a center diff that can lock.
The Limited has a differential which is lockable, in it's Aisin full-time 4wd transfer Case.

The SR5 and TRD models, have a part-time Aisin transfer case with no differential. When you shift those into 4wd, the front and rear output shafts turn at the same speed, with no differentiation.

Last edited by 02SE; 01-11-2022 at 03:20 PM.
02SE is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-11-2022, 03:25 PM #10
2021nightshade4x4 2021nightshade4x4 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2021
Posts: 1,283
2021nightshade4x4 is just really nice 2021nightshade4x4 is just really nice 2021nightshade4x4 is just really nice 2021nightshade4x4 is just really nice 2021nightshade4x4 is just really nice
2021nightshade4x4 2021nightshade4x4 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2021
Posts: 1,283
2021nightshade4x4 is just really nice 2021nightshade4x4 is just really nice 2021nightshade4x4 is just really nice 2021nightshade4x4 is just really nice 2021nightshade4x4 is just really nice
I was initially a Jeep/Dodge guy and owned vehicles with both an NV242 and NV249.

The Jeep with the 249 is great, never “had” to use low range to get unstuck. Just keep it in full time.

Durango with SelecTrac is great to have all those options (and 2WD is one less light on the dash, LOL) but I like the “set it and forget it”.

Yes it’s fun to geek out with the 2WD - N - 4FT - 4PT - 4LO.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
2021nightshade4x4 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-11-2022, 03:35 PM #11
downshift's Avatar
downshift downshift is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 105
downshift is on a distinguished road
downshift downshift is offline
Member
downshift's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 105
downshift is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2021nightshade4x4 View Post
What about LO Range? Still a center diff?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Yes

The Limited has a center diff with these options:
4H (full time AWD) with diff unlocked
4H with diff locked
4L with diff locked

Other models, with a transfer case, have these options:
2H
4H (no option but locked because it's a transfer case, not a diff)
4L (no option but locked because it's a transfer case, not a diff)


The advantage of a center diff is that you have the 4H with diff unlocked mode. You don't have this option with a transfer case. 4H with diff unlocked is probably best for the off roading that most of us do. If you're into intense gnarly rock crawling, a transfer case might be better. On snow and ice, a center diff is better. On your average dirt road, even if it's pretty rough with ruts, rocks and loose stuff, a center diff is better most of the time. You don't have to force one tire to drag in a tight turn.

Some people might say you get better mileage in 2H than you do in full time AWD, but in the real world, this is really really minimal. Toyota does not list different mileage numbers for the different models.
__________________
Current: 2017 TRD Off Road with KDSS
Previous: 2003 Sport Edition AWD
Before That: 1993 Pickup, SR5 V6 5MT Extended Cab 4WD
downshift is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-11-2022, 03:43 PM #12
02SE 02SE is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Here, There..
Posts: 3,780
02SE is a splendid one to behold 02SE is a splendid one to behold 02SE is a splendid one to behold 02SE is a splendid one to behold 02SE is a splendid one to behold 02SE is a splendid one to behold 02SE is a splendid one to behold
02SE 02SE is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Here, There..
Posts: 3,780
02SE is a splendid one to behold 02SE is a splendid one to behold 02SE is a splendid one to behold 02SE is a splendid one to behold 02SE is a splendid one to behold 02SE is a splendid one to behold 02SE is a splendid one to behold
Quote:
Originally Posted by downshift View Post
Yes

The Limited has a center diff with these options:
4H (full time AWD) with diff unlocked
4H with diff locked
4L with diff locked

Other models, with a transfer case, have these options:
2H
4H (no option but locked because it's a transfer case, not a diff)
4L (no option but locked because it's a transfer case, not a diff)


The advantage of a center diff is that you have the 4H with diff unlocked mode. You don't have this option with a transfer case. 4H with diff unlocked is probably best for the off roading that most of us do. If you're into intense gnarly rock crawling, a transfer case might be better. On snow and ice, a center diff is better. On your average dirt road, even if it's pretty rough with ruts, rocks and loose stuff, a center diff is better most of the time. You don't have to force one tire to drag in a tight turn.

Some people might say you get better mileage in 2H than you do in full time AWD, but in the real world, this is really really minimal. Toyota does not list different mileage numbers for the different models.
There seems to be some confusion as to what a transfer case is. The Limited has a differential which is lockable IN it's Aisin transfer case.

The Limited most certainly has a transfer case. The Aisin VF4BM, to be exact.

Last edited by 02SE; 01-11-2022 at 03:46 PM.
02SE is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-11-2022, 03:54 PM #13
Whippersnapper02's Avatar
Whippersnapper02 Whippersnapper02 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: OC, Derpifornia
Age: 40
Posts: 1,244
Whippersnapper02 has much to be proud of Whippersnapper02 has much to be proud of Whippersnapper02 has much to be proud of Whippersnapper02 has much to be proud of Whippersnapper02 has much to be proud of Whippersnapper02 has much to be proud of Whippersnapper02 has much to be proud of Whippersnapper02 has much to be proud of
Whippersnapper02 Whippersnapper02 is offline
Senior Member
Whippersnapper02's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: OC, Derpifornia
Age: 40
Posts: 1,244
Whippersnapper02 has much to be proud of Whippersnapper02 has much to be proud of Whippersnapper02 has much to be proud of Whippersnapper02 has much to be proud of Whippersnapper02 has much to be proud of Whippersnapper02 has much to be proud of Whippersnapper02 has much to be proud of Whippersnapper02 has much to be proud of
Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Planet View Post
You don't have a transfer case in a Limited.

You have a center diff that can lock.
If you really think about it, the non Limiteds are an open diff until you lock it.
__________________
2019 Runner TRD Offroad Premium w/KDSS
Whippersnapper02 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-11-2022, 03:57 PM #14
Bmnorm2 Bmnorm2 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2021
Location: Greenville, SC
Posts: 405
Bmnorm2 is a jewel in the rough Bmnorm2 is a jewel in the rough Bmnorm2 is a jewel in the rough Bmnorm2 is a jewel in the rough
Bmnorm2 Bmnorm2 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2021
Location: Greenville, SC
Posts: 405
Bmnorm2 is a jewel in the rough Bmnorm2 is a jewel in the rough Bmnorm2 is a jewel in the rough Bmnorm2 is a jewel in the rough
Quote:
Originally Posted by 02SE View Post
There seems to be some confusion as to what a transfer case is. The Limited has a differential which is lockable IN it's Aisin transfer case.

The Limited most certainly has a transfer case. The Aisin VF4BM, to be exact.
Thank you. This is correct.

Limited = Front Diff, Transfer Case, Center Diff, Rear Diff

All others with 4WD = Front Diff, Transfer Case, Rear Diff

All others without 4WD = Rear Diff only

Last edited by Bmnorm2; 01-11-2022 at 03:59 PM.
Bmnorm2 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-11-2022, 04:15 PM #15
DAW89446's Avatar
DAW89446 DAW89446 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Nowhere, Nevada
Posts: 632
Real Name: Dave
DAW89446 is a glorious beacon of light DAW89446 is a glorious beacon of light DAW89446 is a glorious beacon of light DAW89446 is a glorious beacon of light DAW89446 is a glorious beacon of light DAW89446 is a glorious beacon of light
DAW89446 DAW89446 is offline
Member
DAW89446's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Nowhere, Nevada
Posts: 632
Real Name: Dave
DAW89446 is a glorious beacon of light DAW89446 is a glorious beacon of light DAW89446 is a glorious beacon of light DAW89446 is a glorious beacon of light DAW89446 is a glorious beacon of light DAW89446 is a glorious beacon of light
Happy to have found this thread. Cleared up a lot for me, as a friend (Wrangler) and I were having a discussion whether there was a center differential or not on 4WD’s. I’ve heard of some brands and models with them. Otherwise it was my understanding that a transfer case was basically open in 4HI and locking only in 4LO.
__________________
Dave
~When You Live in Nevada, "just down the road" is anywhere in the line of sight within the curvature of the earth.

2018 4Runner SR5
2012 Subaru Outback Premium
DAW89446 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Reply

Tags
4runners , center , differential , limited , sr5


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Center differential + rear differential + front differential = confusion! badburro 5th gen T4Rs 37 01-29-2019 12:40 PM
Center differential locked on it's own? wolfman13 4th Gen T4Rs 2 04-09-2016 07:42 PM
Center Differential tarasgrosh 3rd gen T4Rs 0 12-29-2010 12:01 AM
TE & SR5 have Auto Disconnecting Center Differential & Locking Center Differential sven 5th gen T4Rs 28 10-04-2009 02:05 AM
center differential? tailduster 3rd gen T4Rs 6 10-04-2006 12:55 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:10 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
***This site is an unofficial Toyota site, and is not officially endorsed, supported, authorized by or affiliated with Toyota. All company, product, or service names references in this web site are used for identification purposes only and may be trademarks of their respective owners. The Toyota name, marks, designs and logos, as well as Toyota model names, are registered trademarks of Toyota Motor Corporation***Ad Management plugin by RedTyger
 
Copyright © 2020