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Like most of the other commenters, pretty disappointed in what came stock in my 21 ORP. While I'm still planning to add more to it, I picked up some 3 way 6x9 Kickers for the front door and 6.5s Kickers for the back doors a couple of days after I brought it home. Out the door under $275 from Crutchfield with mounting brackets/plug and play adapters included - super budget friendly. Felt like it made a huge difference in terms of music quality and clarity, especially messing around with the EQ settings after install, for "just cruisin' music."
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02-03-2022, 10:23 PM
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Consider what source your music comes from. If you’re listening Sirius XM, streaming music over some app, or mp3s, the music quality isn’t going to be great because your source is already degraded. Decide for yourself... how many thousands of dollars do you want to spend to listen to degraded audio sources? I spent a few hundred and upgrade speakers to get my audio experience to “acceptable”.
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02-04-2022, 11:57 AM
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i have the non-jbl system as well. i'm going with full speaker replacement plus sound deadening in the doors for roughly $500 total from taco tunes.
that may be all i need but can always add an amp and sub later on if i decide its still crummy. i wont have to replace anything i installed; just add their amp & sub to the factory head unit.
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02-04-2022, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by GearJunkie88
Consider what source your music comes from. If you’re listening Sirius XM, streaming music over some app, or mp3s, the music quality isn’t going to be great because your source is already degraded. Decide for yourself... how many thousands of dollars do you want to spend to listen to degraded audio sources? I spent a few hundred and upgrade speakers to get my audio experience to “acceptable”.
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agree but i am a DIY-er who grabs uncompressed (FLAC) recordings and stream it from my Plex server at my house which means I can select the transcode quality when on the road. as you can see, the music below is playing uncompressed but the weak link is pushing this to my head unit via bluetooth which degrades the quality.
a good head unit with android apps built in would eliminate that weak link and i've found setting my remote/streaming to 320bps provides excellent quality without having to push it out uncompressed.
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02-04-2022, 02:18 PM
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Consider what source your music comes from. If you’re listening Sirius XM, streaming music over some app, or mp3s, the music quality isn’t going to be great because your source is already degraded. Decide for yourself... how many thousands of dollars do you want to spend to listen to degraded audio sources? I spent a few hundred and upgrade speakers to get my audio experience to “acceptable”.
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In a perfect world we'd have a 10M count CD library in our vehicles. You definitely improve sound quality with good sources like uncompressed files, but the second you push them over BlueTooth, quality is degraded rather significantly. You can run through aux cable, but then you lose the convenience of the head unit and steering controls.
Most folks aren't going to notice on a big sound change running uncompressed files through an aux cable compared to just using a premium HIFI streaming service like Tidal.
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02-04-2022, 02:43 PM
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What IS it with this new generation that doesn't seem to care about sound quality of music like I did when I was their age?? I guess all the Spotify has dumbed down expectations.
Guess I'll just have to wait and see how it sounds, and go from there.
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Don't forget most people primarily listen to music through crappy earbuds so that has become the standard for sound quality. I like to listen to my records through a good set of over-ear headphones every once in a while to remind myself what music can sound like. 
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02-04-2022, 02:48 PM
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For some of us old farts, when we were "their age" the sound quality consisted of mono AM coming through a soggy paper cone on the top a 72 Datsun B210's dashboard  so the stock sounds pretty awesome now lol
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02-04-2022, 03:16 PM
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For some of us old farts, when we were "their age" the sound quality consisted of mono AM coming through a soggy paper cone on the top a 72 Datsun B210's dashboard so the stock sounds pretty awesome now lol |
old fart checking in.  i also have tinnitus but have never quite given up on acting like a teenager and blasting some old school duran duran or steely dan. i need a little less 'mud' in my speaker output.
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02-04-2022, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Charles Bronson
In a perfect world we'd have a 10M count CD library in our vehicles. You definitely improve sound quality with good sources like uncompressed files, but the second you push them over BlueTooth, quality is degraded rather significantly. You can run through aux cable, but then you the convenience of the head unit and steering controls.
Most folks aren't going to notice on a big sound change running uncompressed files through an aux cable compared to just using a premium HIFI streaming service like Tidal.
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We have a Sony stereo in our '99 4R and it sounds decent to me, even using an old iPod Classic. That's all I'm really after, decent
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02-04-2022, 03:36 PM
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old fart checking in. i also have tinnitus but have never quite given up on acting like a teenager and blasting some old school duran duran or steely dan. i need a little less 'mud' in my speaker output. |
LOL! I get in those moods too from time to time. Sometimes I pull up to our house and my wife makes fun of me for being to hear the music from inside the house 
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02-04-2022, 03:37 PM
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For some of us old farts, when we were "their age" the sound quality consisted of mono AM coming through a soggy paper cone on the top a 72 Datsun B210's dashboard so the stock sounds pretty awesome now lol |
I had that in my '77 F-150!
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For some of us old farts, when we were "their age" the sound quality consisted of mono AM coming through a soggy paper cone on the top a 72 Datsun B210's dashboard so the stock sounds pretty awesome now lol |
Back in the day, I listened to 8-track tapes in my parents’ 1978 Chrysler Cordoba, rich Corinthian leather included!
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I'm not an audiophile, but I can firmly say the 2020+ TRD ORP stereo is one of the worst sounding late model stereos I've heard and I rent tons of cars and trucks for work.
For my wife's 2020 TRD ORP, I upgraded all the speakers with the plug and play kit from OEM Audio Plus. It's quite a bit better and acceptable now. The stock speakers I pulled from the 4Runner were equal to what my 1986 Accord came with. The 2020 4Runner head unit is pretty good seems to have decent power to run the aftermarket speakers without an amp. An amp would certainly help give more depth and clarity but for my wife, it's fine as is.
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Also upgraded to the single sub, double amp, OEM Audio system. I don't regret the decision (some minor PTSD from the wiring harness install though!) - significant improvement in quality, bass, etc.
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02-05-2022, 09:27 AM
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Back in the day, I listened to 8-track tapes in my parents’ 1978 Chrysler Cordoba, rich Corinthian leather included!
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Ahhhh, yes, the rich smell of true, 1970s Luxury 
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Back in the day, I listened to 8-track tapes in my parents’ 1978 Chrysler Cordoba, rich Corinthian leather included!
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1977 Datsun pickup checking in. 2 Jensen coax speakers and a sanyo tape deck that would *gasp* play the other side of the tape just by hitting a button. Also had "pre dolby" tape hiss reduction
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