The nice part about the higher gas prices are that there are less people out in remote off road places now.

ah, prices went down?

this was two weeks ago...

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I also have a BMW G650GS Motorcycle that gets 75 mpg, might have to start using more.

as a small business owner who relies on a truck and trailer this is sucky (especially sucky because this is due to bad policy, bad agendas, and basically a giant F you to the middle class). i run lean with no debt, all my equipment/truck/toyota is paid off, but it still sucks to fill up weekly at $150 vs $75. Plus how ever often wife fills up the toyota.

theres alot of landscape and other construction crews around here that are about to learn the hard lesson that just cause your brand new f450 is a tax write off doesnt meant itll help your monthly cash flow lol


At least now i have a good reason to hurry up and finish my 66 bug restoration. those get solid mpg lol


also, fuel is just one more wrench thrown into the mess. Everything about to get even more expensive.

Oil Production and ability to produce more and rapidly is directly related to the number of active rigs.

Current number of active rigs in US is 650, in the 2020 US had 850 active rigs before world and US economy were stopped pushing that number to 252… the main reason the number of active rigs is not back to pre-pandemic level (despite very high demand and high oil \ gas prices) is the position of current US Administration, AKA as “war on oil and gas”: stopping existing projects from being completed-artificially creating huge losses for all business involved, increasing permits\leases prices, and making them very difficult to obtain, penalizing financial institutions for lending to oil\gas business, creating false\ridiculous claims about global climate changes and its relation to oil\gas used in US as well as increasing penalties for “pollutions”, removing all incentives for research and development... and list goes on.

So, in essence US Oil and Gas is at about 75% of what they were in 2020 and with no ability for rapid increase- as per above, you can thank current US administration for that and for the price at the pump.

I am in a situation where I have two homes, one in the PNW and one in Cali and the 4Runner is temporarily our only vehicle in Cali and it's getting a lot of use. At the moment regular gas is over $5/gallon. I see adding an electric vehicle soon. Of course it will take probably years to offset the added carbon footprint of building an EV and the cost of the EV will never offset fuel savings, but it would be nice to have some non gas vehicle in case there is another gas shortage. No plans to sell the 4Runner, but filling it up right now is painful.

I’m retired also. I live in a isolated, rural area, so annual mileage is relatively high. I have a ‘12 Subaru Outback 4-cylinder, which was languishing since my disabled wife doesn’t drive as much as she used to; now it’s the 4Runner that’s beginning to languish. As of Wednesday, gas has gone up $1.15 per gallon over the week previous, went up twice Wednesday. I haven’t been into town and am afraid to look. But no, I don’t plan to get rid of the 4Runner.

When I bought my ‘18 SR5, I had a ‘02 Tacoma TRD 4x4. The dealer offered me $5,000. I had no plans to trade, I gave it to my adult son, who was still driving a 35 year old Nissan 4x4. The Tacoma had been a faithful truck since I bought it new and had given me lots of reliable miles, a high percentage off road; I couldn’t bear to see it go to some small, inner city used car lot, so kept it in the family where it will continue to be used and pampered in its element.

Amen. It's a shame that "half" of our country didn't see the pipe dream of a green society for what it was, but that's democracy I guess. Unfortunately, the whole world is now paying for it in multiple ways.

How do you patriots want to play this game? Drain everyone else's oil before we tap into our reserves or drain ours now and pay more up the ass when foreign oil producers KNOW our American oil is dried up?

Can't wait to give big oil the middle finger as less and less fuel dependent vehicles hit the market. Of course this won't happen in our time. The only people left to buy gas are 5th gen 4runner owners by 2050.

Owing to the difficulties getting gas around here and California gas taxes, gas in Eureka (Humboldt County)
is well over $6. Will take a pic next time I hit
Shell, but…. And worth it.

The armchair economists on this board are great. Whew boy.

Anyways --

Bought a 4Runner knowing it is a gas guzzling pig. Gas prices go up and go down. People surprised that gas prices change are lovely. That's bad planning on your part.

My gig allows me a WFH indefinitely or come in a few days a week, my choice.

I haven’t had to fill up the rig with gas prices being high — but around here I am probably looking at $70 each fill once I do.

Luckily I got my beater, an 07 Honda Fit, that is stillllllllll trucking along. $30 for that little tank.

Once the weather gets a bit warmer here in the NE I will be trouncing around on my motorbike. $15 for that zoom zoom.

I’m actually surprised I keep averaging 18.5 MPG tank after tank. I do put premium so I’m not sure if that does anything for it, but figured I’d disclose.


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I'm an environmental consultant and work in mergers and acquisitions as well as help oil/gas clients manager their environmental compliance. The US is sitting on MASSIVE reserves now. There's way more oil in the country than thought just 15 years ago. New at the time technologies like fracking and deep well exploration have found all that oil.

The primary oil production issue in this country is how our refineries are designed. Decades ago, US oil refiners designed their refineries to process cheap and dirty "sour" crude from overseas. Why? Primarily because the belief was the US was running out of oil and the sour crude was cheaper to buy/process. The majority of the reserves in the US are considered "sweet" crude. It would take a massive amount of capital and time to covert the refineries to process sweet crude. It will eventually have to happen (and should have), but you know.......profits.