Infotainment isn’t what breaks. It’s the cars that try to have air suspension, direct injection, cheap out on cam phasers and timing chain tensioners that leave you stranded.


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Found a couple to look at this week. One is a 2018 with 66,000 miles, $38K
The other is a 2018 with 47k miles at $40K
Seems like mileage plays a big part in pricing..
These mileages are low, for a Toyota..
I a more concerned with how well the car was maintained, and I will see it once I get in it, and look at brakes, engine compartment, interior and paint.

My 2019 SR5 Premium was ~$43K with only 17K miles. Last year.

I am probably in the minority here. I personally consider a 4Runner without KDSS to be intolerable. Is the limited using X Reas? If so, that suspension may be more what you're looking for out of highway driving than the stock or TRD Pro suspension.

If you're modifying the suspension, then probably avoid KDSS.

I didnt see any mention of the KDSS on it. I dont think it is offered on the limited. I am not knowledgeable.
Is the 4runner just not stable with normal driving due to suspension being more off road friendly?
Maybe bigger sway bars can fix that? Not sure..

The OEM suspension tends to be very wallowy and boat like. The brake-dive is pretty substantial. This can be greatly reduced, virtually eliminated with aftermarket suspension. Something as simple as Bilstein 5100's (which is what I have) or the Eibach Pro Lift kit are very affordable options and do a great job in firming things up.

Thnx, I did have a 4runner brake next to me the other day, and it dove pretty hard..
I had Bilsteins 5100s on my Chevy Silverado. Big difference from OEM..
Sway bars help too, if they have any for the 4runner..
I will look into the Eibach kit..

As a previous 2019 4Runner TRD Pro owner who now has a 2022 4Runner Limited, I can speak firsthand how different the driving dynamics are.

TRD Pro: Fantastic under 50MPH, other than the horrible nose dive while braking...even just normal braking. Above 50MPH, it floated down the road. Not bad...but not good. It required constant wheel corrections to keep it driving straight. That got tiring to me after a while.

Limited: KDSS is not an option on the Limited. You do get XREAS(no option to not get them). Overall driving around town under 50MPH feels the same rock solidness as the TRD Pro, but the nose drive while braking is greatly reduced. Above 50MPH highway driving, tested to 85MPH, it feels completely planted to the ground, and very little correction is needed to the steering wheel. Literally night and day difference!

Now, before all the haters reply...I'm not saying the Limited is the better of the two, just that it's the better of the two for me. If I lived in AZ where my best friend does, I'd still have the TRD Pro, because I'd actually have a place to use it properly. Living in central Ohio though, I don't need the capabilities of the TRD Pro, so the Limited makes more sense.

Either one is a fantastic vehicle. I'd highly suggest driving both before making your decision.

As someone with arthritis in my neck, I honestly like the "rear cross traffic alert" letting me know someone is coming from the side without totally cranking my neck around (not used to the camera yet). Blind spot monitor to warn you someone is in your blind spot's also nice when changing lanes on the freeway, and only a light blinking in your mirror, no alarm. BUT, they can ALL be turned off if you're not into that kind of Nanny State driving experience. However, after driving it 500 miles so far, I haven't felt the need to. And the vehicle I drove for the last 12 years was a 1984 Dodge Power Wagon with crank windows, and our GOOD car is a '99 4Runner SR5.

I just drove a 2022 Corolla for a rental for a couple months. If I turned the nanny stuff off, I had this in your face yellow or red alert on the dash.
If turning it off does this in a 4runner, I would sell it..
I dont need it. I hate CEL, or anything that says there is a problem..

KDSS was a must for me.

The Limited I believe is a pretty expensive trim, so I imagine an Off Road Premium with KDSS will still be within budget. You will sacrifice a small bit of luxury, specifically the JBL sound system (which is for sure pretty neat). But I feel like if a 4Runner's utility, reliability, and made-in-Japan refinement is what you're after, then you should give the ORP with KDSS some though.

A lot of people think that because it is a hydraulic stabilizer system that its only benefits are the stabilizing of body lean and roll when turning. Some think it has ZERO affect on braking. 100% not true. Your passengers will love you for getting KDSS. Most importantly though, I believe the nosedive mitigation to be quite substantial, and therefore, much safer to drive incase something unforeseen happens.

With all that said, nobody really speeds in a 4Runner. I haven't even entered either of the left two lanes on the freeway with mine, and I don't ever plan to unless required for merging reasons. So perhaps my safety concerns as it pertains to braking is overblown. Nonetheless, less nosedive is a plus.

I only drove our nephew's SR5 Premium and don't remember how bad the nose dive was on his, but do remember the body lean, which is why we bought the ORP with KDSS. On turns, the KDSS is great, keeping the vehicle much flatter than the SR5. But I find our ORP still has a bit of nose dive when braking. I've heard many folks say that a decent shock upgrade helps eliminate that.

The XRAES system on the Limited (and Sport) is a slightly more complicated system as it coordinates all 4 shocks, whereas the KDSS just manages the "disconnecting" of the front and rear sway bar. In what I've read so far, the KDSS has fewer problems with leaking over time, as long as the Accumulator is kept free of mud.

Overall, the Limited seems like a good choice for someone who likes a few more creature comforts on the road than the TRD Off Road Premium offers. It has the JBL sound system, Parking Sensors, Memory Seats, auto Climate Control, Remote Start/Remote Connect, actual Leather seats with cooling, 20" wheels for lower profile tires, Full Time 4 wheel drive, and the XRAES suspension, and Auto Running Board option. It does not come with the more fancy Off Road Crawl Control and Multi Terrain Select, or locking rear diff. that come on the TRD Off Road and Pro.

If you are looking at Used, make sure to crawl underneath and check the frame for rust, as 4Runners from Salted Road states have had serious problems with frame corrosion if not well maintained.
2022 Toyota 4Runner Specs & Options

Well, the one I went to look at today was damaged. Front bumper was repaired in some way as both sides by the headlights was not connected.
Dealership didnt note it at all on website.
Oh well.

This is why buying used cars really sucks. So much stuff has been wrecked, bought at auction wrecked, fixed by an out of state dealer/shop, then sold at the dealer or back to auction, transferred to another state, etc. In instances like this, the damage is never reported.

You really have to know what to look for. I also recommend taking a vinyl magnet and testing across a car to look for filler. Also, inspect the seams for overspray and tape lines.

Our 4Runner was t-boned in November and had $9K in damage. The front passenger door was replaced, the front passenger control arms, and the whole passenger side of the truck, the rear bumper cover, and the hood were resprayed as a result. I can't tell at all that the truck has been resprayed which is great, but it was reported to insurance and is already on a Carfax report.

If you're not savvy on auto repair, I'd recommend a prepurchase inspection (PPI) by an expert. It's worth the $200-300.