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Old 05-17-2022, 03:55 AM #16
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Bingo. Wonít void your entire warranty, but they will gripe about the mods and use it as a way to void anything they can. Do your raptor lights mess with your 4wd system?? Nope. Headlights?? They may find something. Just know when you modify anything, they will try and find a way to make it about everything. Sucks, but that is their game.

Remember that the dealer isnít the one making the final call on warranty claims, that is the OEM. The dealer may push back on doing work that could have the potential to be rejected because there is risk involved when it comes down to payment on the work done.


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Usually when it comes to add-on stuff like lights and such, Toyota (not the dealer, actual Toyota side) will ask to return the vehicle to stock configuration before proceeding with any further diagnosis on issues to eliminate the possibility of it being non-warrantable and/orb affecting the stock components. I made a post about mods and warranty on another thread recently.

Sometimes you'll have to pay out of pocket for diagnosis to have the dealer prove it isn't affecting a warrantable item. I will also add that in general, most technicians will rule out aftermarket stuff if it's easy, i.e. just disconnecting a piggy back connector or wire. But from a warranty perspective they don't get paid for diagnosis even if it wasn't modified, so the more time wasted on diagnosis is money out of their paycheck; so it kind of depends on how generous the technician/dealer is feeling. Most places are willing to work with you to an extent, but after a certain point you'll end up needing to pay for additional diagnosis time or return the vehicle to stock configuration yourself before they'll do any more "free diagnosing."

Depending on how you install the items (i.e. cut & solder, wire taps, or just piggy back connectors) they may or may not honor warranty on that harness/attached components and/or require you to pay for a new harness to honor warranty because you "damaged" the factory wiring.

It's one of many reasons I advocate for people to just set up a second fuse box with a dedicated power and ground to use for their aftermarket electronics where possible. Not only does it make diagnosis much easier but if you did have a warranty issue and they tried to give you crap you just pop the positive feed cable to the fuse block and say, "back to stock, so back to diagnosising you go!" Lol
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I made a post when my T4R was going into limp mode because of a faulty throttle body and Toyota made me remove all aftermarket LED's from the truck, stating it was a possibility they were the cause of said malfunction.
End results, it wasn't the LED's fault but a faulty TB.
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I made a post when my T4R was going into limp mode because of a faulty throttle body and Toyota made me remove all aftermarket LED's from the truck, stating it was a possibility they were the cause of said malfunction.
End results, it wasn't the LED's fault but a faulty TB.
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"small mods"?????? raptor lights are peak 4runner modding i mean d baggery. make sure you run with your Baja Designs ON during the day on the streets too please.
Consider a community college English 101 so we know what kind of derogatory things you are trying to communicate?
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Remember that the dealer isnít the one making the final call on warranty claims, that is the OEM. The dealer may push back on doing work that could have the potential to be rejected because there is risk involved when it comes down to payment on the work done.


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The dealer has a lot of pull. But in the end you are correct. I keep my vehicles 99% stock for this reason. Just experience.
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Toyota newbie here, other than the drivetrain, when does the warranty expire? 3 yr / 36,000?
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The dealer has a lot of pull. But in the end you are correct. I keep my vehicles 99% stock for this reason. Just experience.
Not trying to argue, just providing perspective from someone who has managed a Toyota dealership for 7 years. We can advocate, and there are many elements of goodwill that we can advocate for, but the decision still rests solely on the OEM.
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The dealer has a lot of pull. But in the end you are correct. I keep my vehicles 99% stock for this reason. Just experience.
Not as much as you'd think, it kinda comes down to politics, i.e. the dealer, their standing with Toyota, the FTS, DSPM, how many Goodwill claims they filed this year, and even the region; at the end of the day Toyota's warranty claims department and its associates make the final call. Sometimes a dealer can get some wiggle room, but it's not at all a consistent guarantee or reliable.

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Toyota newbie here, other than the drivetrain, when does the warranty expire? 3 yr / 36,000?
3yr/36k is bumper to bumper, other warranty i.e. drivetrain, SRS system, etc is detailed in your warranty and maintenance guide that came with the vehicle, should be with the owners manual.
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Not trying to argue, just providing perspective from someone who has managed a Toyota dealership for 7 years. We can advocate, and there are many elements of goodwill that we can advocate for, but the decision still rests solely on the OEM.
You definitely know more than I do then. (No sarcasm). I had one experience where the service advisor said no. I wrote the owner of he dealership and explained the situation. Problem was solved the next day. It was super cool, and I try and use that dealership as often as I can.
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Not as much as you'd think, it kinda comes down to politics, i.e. the dealer, their standing with Toyota, the FTS, DSPM, how many Goodwill claims they filed this year, and even the region; at the end of the day Toyota's warranty claims department and its associates make the final call. Sometimes a dealer can get some wiggle room, but it's not at all a consistent guarantee or reliable.

You are probably correct. Thankfully, I have had only one experience like thisÖ..and it was with an FRS, which is pretty much all Subaru
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