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Lasfit 22" Amber Light Bar - Upper Grill Mount
No this review wasn't sponsored by Lasfit. Just happened to be in the market for an amber light bar to compliment my pro-grill on a 2020 ORP. If you are still interested, read on.
I live in the snow belt area of Ontario. White out conditions are normal and can happen with little notice. A white light bar might be useful in lighting up the desert but i needed an amber bar.
I ordered the 22" bar because it was the only Lasfit size available that would fit in the top grill mount location. I would have ordered a 27" bar if they had one available. But, luckily for me, there are 2 push pins on either side of the radiator support which when removed provide a perfect mounting location using the provided hardware. No special
mounting brackets required. I like to avoid drilling holes because it's just another potential point of corrosion up here.
Although the centre grill support needs to be removed (4 small silver philips screw and the top bolt), no other trimming is required because the unit is only a 2.5 inches in height.
I ordered my light bar with the wiring harness but opted to put an oem style switch in the open spots. The relay was mounted on the inner fender existing threaded holes using an M8x1.25 x 10mm bolt purchased at the hardware store. It's at this point that i realized that the positive battery lead was about a foot too short. I patched an extension. I was kind of peaved at having to do this since Lasfit charges almost double for their harness compared to others on Amazon.
It took me about 1.5 hours but it really is a very simple install given that the bar fits in the existing holes.
As opposed to putting spot beams throughout the centre of the lightbar with floods at the sides, Lasfit put a combination of both in the centre. Looking at the pics, i think i would have been happier with the traditional approach.
If Lasfit's screwless front case (which supposedly improves weather resistance) holds up through the Canadian Fall rains and Winter snow and ice, then given the price point, I would recommend this light bar. No it isn't the brightest light bar available but it will compliment your low and high beams in inclement driving conditions.
Note that my low beams are H9's.
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09-01-2022, 12:09 AM
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do you have a picture of the front of the grill with the light bar installed? You may have convinced me to get the 22”
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09-01-2022, 08:01 AM
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As requested I have attached a few more pics.
Before I forget, one more point regarding the wiring harness; the relay holder hole (which takes the M8) is a 1/16" too small. If you extend the positive lead and drill out the hole ahead of time, this is a quick 45 minute install. The little things slow you down.
Looking at the pics again, despite doing the H9 upgrade on the low beams within a week of picking up the runner, I'm still not happy with the light distribution. I may have to consider an upgrade.
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09-01-2022, 10:23 AM
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As requested I have attached a few more pics.
Before I forget, one more point regarding the wiring harness; the relay holder hole (which takes the M8) is a 1/16" too small. If you extend the positive lead and drill out the hole ahead of time, this is a quick 45 minute install. The little things slow you down.
Looking at the pics again, despite doing the H9 upgrade on the low beams within a week of picking up the runner, I'm still not happy with the light distribution. I may have to consider an upgrade.
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Do you have aftermarket fog lights or just the Laminx film? Curious how the amber Lasfit color matches other aftermarket amber lights.
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09-01-2022, 12:10 PM
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Hows the cutoff? That's my only issue with some units - i need sharp cutoffs so I can aim properly and not blind oncoming traffic. You have any pics of the bar turned on against a garage door or wall?
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09-01-2022, 12:50 PM
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Do you have aftermarket fog lights or just the Laminx film? Curious how the amber Lasfit color matches other aftermarket amber lights.
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The fogs are some "too good to be true and don't believe the reviews" leds off amazon, no film. In hindsight, i probably would have been better off throwing in some H11's and laminx film but I needed brighter fogs for all the reasons that I bought the amber bar. The cheap leds look great in a pic but you can't tell that they're on from the drivers seat.
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09-01-2022, 02:10 PM
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22" Lasfit Upper Grille Install Guide
I created an install guide for Lasfit for the 22" upper grille mount. PM your email address and I can send it to ya...
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09-01-2022, 08:36 PM
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Hows the cutoff? That's my only issue with some units - i need sharp cutoffs so I can aim properly and not blind oncoming traffic. You have any pics of the bar turned on against a garage door or wall?
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Pics as requested.
Cutoff not great but I didn't think that you could achieve a sharp cutoff with lightbars, certainly not ones at this price point. I may be wrong, but Rigid and Baja Designs lightbars that cost 5 to 8 times this one, don't mention cutoff. My budget precluded that kind of expenditure. IMO, if you're worried about blinding oncoming traffic, chances are that the conditions don't warrant the use of a lightbar.
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09-01-2022, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by NoSoupForYou
Hows the cutoff? That's my only issue with some units - i need sharp cutoffs so I can aim properly and not blind oncoming traffic. You have any pics of the bar turned on against a garage door or wall?
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Uhhhh light bars are not designed for use in traffic.
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just to add to his review:
Universal wiring is typically shiet, unless it’s vehicle and application specific. I’ve spent a lot of money on wiring harnesses only to cut them up to the point where I should have made my own harness to begin with.
You won't get great cutoff because its sitting behind the mesh grill, and its designed to be mainly as a spot light. So OP can probably aim it higher to get rid of that giant hot spot.
You also can get the hood latch / radiator support back on. I don't remember if i used the top hole or bottom hole on the mounting bracket to do so. I was still able to aim the lightbar also. So it is very possible.
Just fyi.
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09-02-2022, 07:26 AM
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Uhhhh light bars are not designed for use in traffic.
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Obviously. Which was why I asked about it - since it was mentioned about driving in inclement weather conditions, figured other's would be on the road too at time of use and thought maybe this light bar would allow street driving. I understand lightbars are typically an off-road or 'only one on the road' type deal.
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09-02-2022, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by NoSoupForYou
Obviously. Which was why I asked about it - since it was mentioned about driving in inclement weather conditions, figured other's would be on the road too at time of use and thought maybe this light bar would allow street driving. I understand lightbars are typically an off-road or 'only one on the road' type deal.
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I should have clarified the term "inclement". In the snow belt, it typically means you can't see a distance of 2 cars ahead of you. At night, you'll be lucky to see beyond the end of your hood. Vehicles that are caught out in these streamers try to maintain a 10 or 20 car distance between vehicles but if you can't see more than 2 vehicles ahead, it's an issue. Hence the amber lightbar.
Regular light snow, rain and light fog may be considered "inclement" in parts of North America. Under these conditions, we make do with lowbeams and fogs.
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09-02-2022, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by mrblah
just to add to his review:
Universal wiring is typically shiet, unless it’s vehicle and application specific. I’ve spent a lot of money on wiring harnesses only to cut them up to the point where I should have made my own harness to begin with.
You won't get great cutoff because its sitting behind the mesh grill, and its designed to be mainly as a spot light. So OP can probably aim it higher to get rid of that giant hot spot.
You also can get the hood latch / radiator support back on. I don't remember if i used the top hole or bottom hole on the mounting bracket to do so. I was still able to aim the lightbar also. So it is very possible.
Just fyi.
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Thanks ! I did a quick dark garage test and while the bottom bracket hole allows you to reinstall the centre/latch support, the lightbar is no longer vertically centred in the top grill and the bottom of the hotspot gets cut off. Ideally, a good set of fogs should fill the gap but my crappy, overly inflated lumen, fogs bulbs are just not up to the challenge. I ended up back at the top hole for my use case but it's good to have options.
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Originally Posted by NeilYoung
Pics as requested.
Cutoff not great but I didn't think that you could achieve a sharp cutoff with lightbars, certainly not ones at this price point. I may be wrong, but Rigid and Baja Designs lightbars that cost 5 to 8 times this one, don't mention cutoff. My budget precluded that kind of expenditure. IMO, if you're worried about blinding oncoming traffic, chances are that the conditions don't warrant the use of a lightbar.
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I think you will find that to truly cut through inclement weather, you need more than the correct color temperature. (And to be 100% correct, you want selective yellow, not amber.)
To cut through inclement weather though, you also need a very focused beam pattern such as fog or spot - not flood. In fact, a flood pattern is the absolute worst pattern to have because it scatters light everywhere - as your picture shows. That said, most light bars are flood, driving and sometimes spot patterns - usually a combination of them.
If you really want something to cut through snow and rain, try a pair of Diode Dynamics SS3's in place of those cheap fogs. I would recommend the Sport or Max model in a fog pattern in selective yellow. The Sports are a tremendous bang for the buck and the Max's are flat out awesome. Aim them carefully though.
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09-02-2022, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Too Stroked
I think you will find that to truly cut through inclement weather, you need more than the correct color temperature. (And to be 100% correct, you want selective yellow, not amber.)
To cut through inclement weather though, you also need a very focused beam pattern such as fog or spot - not flood. In fact, a flood pattern is the absolute worst pattern to have because it scatters light everywhere - as your picture shows. That said, most light bars are flood, driving and sometimes spot patterns - usually a combination of them.
If you really want something to cut through snow and rain, try a pair of Diode Dynamics SS3's in place of those cheap fogs. I would recommend the Sport or Max model in a fog pattern in selective yellow. The Sports are a tremendous bang for the buck and the Max's are flat out awesome. Aim them carefully though.
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I appreciate the advice coming from someone who has some first hand experience with "streamers off the lake". I'm just 30 miles north of you on the other side of the wall. The SS3's (Sports) are on my Christmas wish list. I just got sucked into believing the reviews (including some on this forum) that some yellow drop in bulbs are a viable, cost effective alternative to specifically engineered spots. I guess the moral of the story is spend once, cry once.
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