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Old 09-03-2022, 08:05 AM #16
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LIke several others, I'm on a 5K interval. The oil comes out black at 5K. I can't warm up to a 10K interval unless like the wife's old Benz that held 9 qts of oil for a 3.5L engine.
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That engine will last 200k pretty much no matter what you do with the oil. (short of running it dry)
By then most of you will have gotten bored and traded it off for the next 'new' fad

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I have a 2014 with 145,000 miles on it, and just picked up a TRD PRO in March.
I do the first oil and filter change at 2000 miles and then at 5000. From that point fwd I do oil and filter every 5000.

I have recently been talked out of using dept store Mobile 1 (by the gang in this forum - lots of data and a poll that shows its a top choice) The fact base is convincing - the dealer sold Toyota Brand 0/20 is made by Mobile, but does not contain the same additives as the Toyota dealer supplied 0/20.

I use Toyota OEM oil filters, and switched out the plastic oil filter holder / housing for the aluminum OEM part. To be fair the plastic one on the 2014 was showing wear after about 10 oil filter changes ~ 45,000 miles, as a result of doing oil and filter changes. I had read about them becoming fatigued / stripped and wanted to avoid a nightmare of not being able to get it off.

As you see above - dealer lube guys are lees than careful when dong a oil change, over torquing - filter housings / casings, drain plugs, and of course "stripping the bolts that hold the skid plates" in place.

So.... I do my own work --- I feel blessed, because I have a killer garage / guy cave, and actually like doing small projects. It's also good to get underneath the 4runner and check all fluids, and easy to access components like the air filter ----just avoids surprises.

Hope that helps------ and congrats on the new 4runner!
But this is from Mobil's website for those that have reservations concerning Walmart.

Shouldn't overthink this oil stuff, any synthetic with a timely change schedules will surely yield stellar results.

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Is the Mobil 1™ oil sold at Walmart the same?
“I have a question about the 5-quart Mobil 1™ motor oil jugs I buy at Walmart. Is the oil in the 5-quart Mobil 1™ 5W-30 jugs the exact same oil that is in the 1-quart containers sold elsewhere? I ask because I have heard that Walmart gets a cheaper formulation made to their specs in order to allow them to sell for less and you do not get the same quality of oil when you buy it. When I compared the labeling on the 1-quart containers at Advance Auto Parts to the 5-quart jug I got at Walmart, I noticed that the 1-quart container says ACEA A1/A5 B1/B5 and the 5-quart does not say ACEA at all. Both have the HTO-06 and are, I believe, both API SN and ILSAC GF-5. Frankly, I doubt that any company would risk their reputation by packaging a different product for a chain store under the same name but I thought I would ask.”

Paul Sceva, Plainfield, Illinois

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You are right: The formulation and quality level of our motor oils are the same wherever the product name is the same, regardless of the package size in which it is sold. The difference in ACEA claims you are referring to sound unfamiliar to us. Was it the exact same product in both cases?

Is the Mobil 1™ sold at Walmart the same | Mobil™.
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I changed my initial factory fill in our 2022 Trail at 2500 miles after a short break-in period. The oil and filter did not show obvious wear metals. I just changed it again after a trip from AZ to MI and then AZ to OR which put on 10,000 miles. Although the oil was dirty, the highway miles did not blacken the oil significantly. I would say 7500-10,000 intervals would be safe. A blackstone report would verify that.

DIY vs dealer: DIY is much more enjoyable knowing your 4Runner is not being pawed at by someone who may/may not know how to change oil. It is a little more cumbersome with the skid plate, but not bad overall. I do wish Toyota would not use the plastic oil filter housing. That looks to be a weak point.
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Is the Mobil 1™ oil sold at Walmart the same?
Never heard of the Walmart stocked Mobil 1 being different. Glad to know it's the same.

I think the comparison was being made to Toyota's oil, made by Exxon Mobil, vs. the Mobil 1 product. The oil made by Exxon Mobil with the Toyota label has a Toyota-specific additive package. I don't know that the additive is necessarily better. It's just what the engineers at Toyota designed for their engines.

I honestly don't know why Toyota makes it available for sale to the public since the service departments likely do not use it. I only use it when the price is about the same as something else I might buy. I don't buy a new vehicle often but I will pay extra for Toyota's oil for the first few oil changes on a new engine. I do assume this is what comes in the engine from the factory in Japan.
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Never heard of the Walmart stocked Mobil 1 being different. Glad to know it's the same.

I think the comparison was being made to Toyota's oil, made by Exxon Mobil, vs. the Mobil 1 product. The oil made by Exxon Mobil with the Toyota label has a Toyota-specific additive package. I don't know that the additive is necessarily better. It's just what the engineers at Toyota designed for their engines.

I honestly don't know why Toyota makes it available for sale to the public since the service departments likely do not use it. I only use it when the price is about the same as something else I might buy. I don't buy a new vehicle often but I will pay extra for Toyota's oil for the first few oil changes on a new engine. I do assume this is what comes in the engine from the factory in Japan.

The look of amazement on my face when I learned dealers don’t use factory parts and fluids in their regular service offerings but they sure as hell SELL them at their parts counter!


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The look of amazement on my face when I learned dealers don’t use factory parts and fluids in their regular service offerings but they sure as hell SELL them at their parts counter!
Given what they charge for an oil change, using unbranded bulk oil is the most irritating.

Most good dealers will use all OEM parts except for some of the economy Toyota YZZ stuff like brake pads and the SightLine wipers. I believe some dealers will offer the higher cost brake pads as an option.

I've heard of dealers using non-Toyota parts and am surprised the franchise agreement allows for that.
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Never heard of the Walmart stocked Mobil 1 being different. Glad to know it's the same.

I think the comparison was being made to Toyota's oil, made by Exxon Mobil, vs. the Mobil 1 product. The oil made by Exxon Mobil with the Toyota label has a Toyota-specific additive package. I don't know that the additive is necessarily better. It's just what the engineers at Toyota designed for their engines.

I honestly don't know why Toyota makes it available for sale to the public since the service departments likely do not use it. I only use it when the price is about the same as something else I might buy. I don't buy a new vehicle often but I will pay extra for Toyota's oil for the first few oil changes on a new engine. I do assume this is what comes in the engine from the factory in Japan.
I do know that the Toyo oil contains more MolyD than the regular Mobil1
Google it, it's a very, very good lube by itself.
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I did my own at 5K miles. People wait until 10K without issues.
how many of them reported 300K miles on odometer?
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how many of them reported 300K miles on odometer?
I'm sure a lot.
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I have a 22 ORP, I changed the oil in the first 2,500 miles for piece of mind I guess, get those new engine items out...lol
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I'm a big fan of early changes on a new engine, shooting for 1000 for the first one. It's a good "just in case" for assembly materials.

Highest wear on most engines comes during break in, so usually hit 2500, 5000 then 10000, if for nothing else than to check the filter.

For differentials, 15k for first, then every 50 or 100k depending on what lube is used.

Transmissions, had lots, 30k pan drain (or drop for other manufacturers) and refill and not one failure since I started driving in the 70s.

Don't forget power steering, turkey baster drain and fill every 30k.
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The Car Care Nut does a good video on this. He is changing the motor on a 1 owner, dealer maintained Camry (if I remember correctly), with about 160K miles. He said it is the result if 10k oil change intervals, and low quality oil used at the dealerships. Apparently that minimum recommended service interval is what is needed to make it past your 3/36 or 5/60 factory powertrain warranty. If you want 300k, do the 5k interval, and yes, do a "break in" oil change a thousand miles in or so. Care Care Nut is a Toyota Master Diagnostic Technician, btw.
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And here's the video, for those interested:
Here's Why Toyota Engines Consume Oil. Tear down and Repair. - YouTube

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The Car Care Nut does a good video on this. He is changing the motor on a 1 owner, dealer maintained Camry (if I remember correctly), with about 160K miles. He said it is the result if 10k oil change intervals, and low quality oil used at the dealerships. Apparently that minimum recommended service interval is what is needed to make it past your 3/36 or 5/60 factory powertrain warranty. If you want 300k, do the 5k interval, and yes, do a "break in" oil change a thousand miles in or so. Care Care Nut is a Toyota Master Diagnostic Technician, btw.
My kid has a 2022 Camry & he says that his owners manual calls for 5000 mile oil change intervals with full synthetic. I'm not sure why the difference between the Camry & our 4R's, but I do 10,000 mile OCI on my 4R with the OEM filter & Toyota branded oil. Toyota engineers would NOT recommend a 10,000 OCI if it wasn't safe. That is just the plain hard truth.
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