If you can’t handle the counter, then don’t start it. Then you come and post complaint as if you were victimized, which is pretty consistent with your generation.

BTW where do you see a call out on sexual preference or political leanings? Getting manicures is a reference to the fact that few millennials and their following generation can’t turn a wrench, let alone drive a manual transmission. That you took it to mean sexual preference is quite revealing and consistent with you victimhood stance. Ain’t that rich?

Wait a minute. The 4Runner is a terrible purchase and you should be ashamed of yourself. Look at this list of negatives, incomplete for sure since I have to run out and prove my superiority to others today and don't have much time to chat with the likes of you:

1. It uses gas. GAS! Do I need to say more? Just awful in today's enlightened and progressive age
2. Toyota doesn't feature it in commercials cleaning trash off of the beach or helping pet adoption centers like Subaru does with the Outback
3. It doesn't have every new tech gizmo known to God.
4. It is reliable and therefore does not contribute to the economy the way vehicles that constantly break down do
4. You don't see any Hollywood types driving one. If Leonardo DiCaprio doesn't own one, why should I?
5. Most people who own one actually like their rig. Aren't people supposed to be unhappy and unsatisfied with everything in their life these days?

When my 2023 TRD ORP comes in from the factory, I'm going to be ashamed of myself too.

Don't know about most people but am certainly not included in that.

The 4Runner purchase that was made by me was after a long search for a vehicle which would last a long time.

Previously owned ford and its commonly known they have multiple problems with their electrical systems ie ford exploder. The chevy silveradro had failed piston rings after 120,000 miles and my '15 tacoma started having transmission problems after 40,000 miles.

The result was going back to an suv completely built in japan with apparently one of the most dependable drivetrains around. the low-tech features available were not even considered, only the tow weight rating and availability of 4 wheel drive.

And am very happy to have found this forum, the insights of others here with their helpful experiences and willingness to share is so helpful.

If you are one of the rich elite and trade in your vehicle every 2 years then none of this means anything to you. To each his own, your allowed to do that. For myself am quite satisfied with my purchase. Now that I am retired, a dependable vehicle is nothing for me to worry about anymore.

Thanks Toyota.

I’m glad I’m old. Old enough to see how much vehicles have changed - both in positive and negative ways. Old enough to appreciate how much fun I had in the old days with those basic old 4x4 trucks. Old enough to remember bouncing all over the wide open desert spaces that are now buried under urban sprawl. I have fond memories of my old ‘70 Ford F-250 4x4 with no power anything, rough ride, no AC and rubber floors that took me all over the intermountain west; but I am thankful for my ‘18 SR5 because it’s comfortable, versatile and works for me and the the environment I live in.

I chose my 17 SR5 4runner for the (relative) lack of doodads. Proven capability and reliability. I saw them everywhere but found few listed for sale. Must be a reason for that.
I buy to use for a long time. I don't buy to later resell to chase "the latest and greatest". That's why I also still drive my 99% original 68 F100. It was my daily driver for 35 years.
Other than a Fiat (it was free) my 4runner is the first non big 3 vehicle I ever bought. With regular maintenance, it should outlive this boomer.

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I'm convinced the TRD on my 20 TRD ORP stands for turd. Between the peeling paint, the breaking trim, and the electrical issues I'm not sure where Toyota has gotten this illusion of reliability/quality. But I don't care too much, I bought it as a toy and not as a commuter. It would be terrible as a commuter.

What's a manual transmission? Is that where you have that weird other pedal? Isn't that where the e-brake goes?