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Old 09-07-2022, 09:50 AM #16
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You are spot on. I think there is a point where your setup is too built up and you actually start hampering the overall performance and reliability off road. Let's be honest most folks who are up on 35s are just driving around on maintained USFS roads "Overlanding". Not dragging their trucks through rock gardens that like to eat up body panels
The majority of FJs I wheel with have had 35s.

In reality, 35s arent that big or unreliable on our platform.

IMO 35s are the standard for offroading and the jumping off point for more extreme sizes if you decide you are willing to beef up certain components and trim around some wheel wells.

I've had 33s, 35s, and now 37s. Brother has had the same plus 39s on his FJ.
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I think you've got the items most likely to break - the inner/outer tie-rods and a CV axle.
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Great opening post! I, too, think about these issues as we go solo deep into the desert and we are not slow anymore

To me, it all starts from mild mods. Any bigger mods will result in extra wear and sometimes excess and fast wear. When I finally get 8112s with adjusters in the front (not yet in production), I may go just a tad higher in the front but will still stay under 2", certainly not over 2".

Then reliability of aftermarket components. You never really know when a monotube will give up the ghost. Sometimes, top end shocks can let go for no apparent reason. But it is a rare occurrence so I am not overthinking that. If having less capable shocks, carrying a rear spare is a good idea, for example using anything less than a 2.5 at speeds higher than what a stock setup allows.

For spares, I only carry tie rod at present. I whiffed on a good price for CV and rear driveshaft in January because I did not want to pay 100$ shipping. Now I wish I could have those prices. So I still carry no CV and no rear driveshaft. My concern with those is in crawling which we don't do much of but I would like to get those parts eventually.


I am all for preemptive maintenance but thankfully it is early for me. Changing fluids on all diffs/transfer case/lubricating the driveshaft, I do all that regularly. You can find a spare alternator cheaply from a junk yard but I agree on preemptive replacement at higher mileage. If you ever do water/deep mud, it is great to carry a spare anyway. At your mileage, I would probably want to have a new starter as well.


You have the sibling tires of mine. I love the ATZ P3. I got a nail in one of mine this summer trip. It stayed there for like 600 miles till I returned home and the tire finally could no longer stay above 20 psi. It was repaired by Discount Tire. But I bought a capable spare in result of this; I used to have a P-metric Wildpeak spare.

But yeah I really don't have much to say other than that I see things pretty much the way you do
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The majority of FJs I wheel with have had 35s.

In reality, 35s arent that big or unreliable on our platform.

IMO 35s are the standard for offroading and the jumping off point for more extreme sizes if you decide you are willing to beef up certain components and trim around some wheel wells.

I've had 33s, 35s, and now 37s. Brother has had the same plus 39s on his FJ.
Agree on 35s being the gold standard for off-road focused vehicles these days but as you said you can't just throw them on our platform and expect things not to break. I think our steering rack and its components are the major weak point on our platform and probably the first thing I would upgrade (LC200 Rack). Hell I already broke my rack on lighter 33s
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For spares, I only carry tie rod at present. I whiffed on a good price for CV and rear driveshaft in January because I did not want to pay 100$ shipping. Now I wish I could have those prices. So I still carry no CV and no rear driveshaft. My concern with those is in crawling which we don't do much of but I would like to get those parts eventually.
I've always had the mentality of just pulling a CV if I ever break one and just go home with 3WD. However, that would require you to have a sawzall to create a stub shaft to hold the wheel bearing together in the affected corner. Seems like more work than simply swapping out the CV. I btw only carry it with me on technical trails. On normal runs it stays home because I'm a bit of a weight weenie.

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You can find a spare alternator cheaply from a junk yard but I agree on preemptive replacement at higher mileage. If you ever do water/deep mud, it is great to carry a spare anyway. At your mileage, I would probably want to have a new starter as well.
Yup I have done plenty of water/mud crossings over the last 7 years that has probably shorten the life of both those items. They are definitely on the priority list to be replaced.

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You have the sibling tires of mine. I love the ATZ P3. I got a nail in one of mine this summer trip. It stayed there for like 600 miles till I returned home and the tire finally could no longer stay above 20 psi. It was repaired by Discount Tire. But I bought a capable spare in result of this; I used to have a P-metric Wildpeak spare.

But yeah I really don't have much to say other than that I see things pretty much the way you do
I love my Cooper ST MAXX (ATZ P3), they have been extremely durable, have great traction in deep wet snow, and really shine on rocks. If I go with a skinny 34" I will be getting them again for sure.
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I've always had the mentality of just pulling a CV if I ever break one and just go home with 3WD. However, that would require you to have a sawzall to create a stub shaft to hold the wheel bearing together in the affected corner. Seems like more work than simply swapping out the CV.
Buy a used CV and disassemble it yourself. Bring both stub shafts with you on the trail. Should only cost like $150 on ebay or cheaper if found on the forums needing a reboot. That's what I do in addition to carrying a fully assembled CV.
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Agree on 35s being the gold standard for off-road focused vehicles these days but as you said you can't just throw them on our platform and expect things not to break. I think our steering rack and its components are the major weak point on our platform and probably the first thing I would upgrade (LC200 Rack). Hell I already broke my rack on lighter 33s
I might be one of the lucky ones but I've wheeled a year on some harder trails, Rubicon, Blanca Peak, easier part of Fordyce, with 37s and stock original steering rack, tie rods, and CVs. Haven't broken any of them even with using a front locker and having long travel extended tie rods.

Give it some time and I'm sure I would break something but is that any different than with 35's or 33's?

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