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Old 11-11-2022, 09:22 PM #16
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Eibach ProTruck is the Answer

I have 2019 ORP, and daily drive it with similar use criteria as the OP.

I can’t recommend the Eibach lift highly enough. I used the factory springs on the top perch to get 2.5” of lift in the fron and use the Eibach springs in the back for a 1” lift there. You should be able to get the whole kit or piecemeal for less than a grand and have plenty left for the install with a $1,700 budget. You will need to find an alignment shop that deals with lifted vehicles as the “factory” alignment specs don’t work with a lifted truck. My shop couldn’t get enough castor to get 3 degrees with the factory UCA’s, but it doesn’t feel unstable at highway speeds either. Many folks report good castor though, so YMMV.

It sits almost level with a very slight forward rake.

It sags to level when fully loaded for a San Diego beach trip.

It soaks up speed humps way better than the factory suspension.

As many report, it drives more truck-like, but in a good way.

It has less nosedive under braking.
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I have 2019 ORP, and daily drive it with similar use criteria as the OP.

I can’t recommend the Eibach lift highly enough. I used the factory springs on the top perch to get 2.5” of lift in the fron and use the Eibach springs in the back for a 1” lift there. You should be able to get the whole kit or piecemeal for less than a grand and have plenty left for the install with a $1,700 budget. You will need to find an alignment shop that deals with lifted vehicles as the “factory” alignment specs don’t work with a lifted truck. My shop couldn’t get enough castor to get 3 degrees with the factory UCA’s, but it doesn’t feel unstable at highway speeds either. Many folks report good castor though, so YMMV.

It sits almost level with a very slight forward rake.

It sags to level when fully loaded for a San Diego beach trip.

It soaks up speed humps way better than the factory suspension.

As many report, it drives more truck-like, but in a good way.

It has less nosedive under braking.
I've looked at this too but I want to maintain the factory rake so....
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Old 11-12-2022, 02:35 PM #18
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So, probably a dumb question but any need for extended bumpstops with this setup?

I mean the front shocks start out extended due to the longer coils so you lose droop just like you would with a stock coil and setting the 5100 for lift...but what about compression? What is going to be the limiting factor for upward travel of the tire?

Asking because I am looking at a similar arrangement down the road (I'm in line for an ORP but expecting it to be a couple months before I get one...)
If you plan to wheel then extended bump stops are a good idea, but still not necessary. For general driving or gravel roads, it's not necessary at all.
I'm running Timbren bump stops front and rear on my lifted 5th gen and it made an improvement when hitting large potholes or sudden bumps offroad, but certainly weren't necessary.
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Old 11-12-2022, 05:29 PM #19
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Super helpful - thank you! Looking at Wheeler's it looks like I should go with 2884 in front and .....2889s in the back? That sound right?
I have a lifted TRD Offroad with OME Nitrocharger shocks and OME Medium Springs front/rear. When I'm running around unloaded, meaning no RTT, no rear drawers and no camping gear, it rides rough. The Medium springs are meant to always have added weight on them.

Your otherwise stock Limited would ride nicely on OME stock capacity springs (2884 Front/2889 Rear). You likely won't feel much difference between Bilstein, OME, Etc shocks for your daily driving so buy what fits your budget.

Are you planning to run oversize tires on 17" wheels or factory 265/70R17? If you're plan is to run factory size, that lift will look a little weird.

I'm running LT285/70R17 on the same lift and it almost looks small compared to some. Offset also makes a big difference.
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The kit I'm looking at also has an option for extended brake lines... not really sure why I'd need that one either.
Given what you say in your original post regarding usage, you definitely won't be needing extended brake lines. They only come into play if you plan to have your suspension fully drooped out over obstacles on a frequent basis. I off road pretty often and still don't even have extended brake lines myself.

Also... i need to learn to use multi quote replys. haha
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I've looked at this too but I want to maintain the factory rake so....
Use your factory springs on a lower perch…
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No comparison. I found XREAS ok on very smooth highway. Very jarring and brittle on any roads even with expansion strips. You can adjust the kings compression from ultra soft 1970s Cadillac to firm but not overtly harsh. Basically they transformed the bus from a wallowing pig to a more composed vehicle. They are better at speed, better off road, more comfortable, track better on road. Ive had many coilovers over the years on various cars, most can be harsh or heavy due to high spring rates, the kings are very nice. I recommend them alot and am very satisfied with them. Only negative I have found is the rear shocks have a galvanized type shock body that is not very corrosion resistant if you live in a place with lots of salt in winter. Otherwise we good herE!!!

But some you will like them!!!!
I'm split on what to get. I just want a good ride on the road, not worried about off road performance. I would like these but they're almost certainly overkill and can get Dobinsons IMS for 1 grand less. Probably the Dobinsons are overkill as well, but I will be very upset with a stiff and unforgiving ride.
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I have a lifted TRD Offroad with OME Nitrocharger shocks and OME Medium Springs front/rear. When I'm running around unloaded, meaning no RTT, no rear drawers and no camping gear, it rides rough. The Medium springs are meant to always have added weight on them.

Your otherwise stock Limited would ride nicely on OME stock capacity springs (2884 Front/2889 Rear). You likely won't feel much difference between Bilstein, OME, Etc shocks for your daily driving so buy what fits your budget.

Are you planning to run oversize tires on 17" wheels or factory 265/70R17? If you're plan is to run factory size, that lift will look a little weird.

I'm running LT285/70R17 on the same lift and it almost looks small compared to some. Offset also makes a big difference.
This is the other way I was looking at it but OME shocks because I've always heard that 5100's look like crap after a year where they use a ton of salt on the roads in the winter (like...here).

My debate has been which springs. I can see myself adding a gas tank skid pretty early and maybe sliders but probably not the small front bumper for a while. gas skid and sliders are gonna add around 180# but split between front and back. (bumper will add another 80 or so until I also add a winch, at which point the next step up for coils is probably where I would want to be).

hate to end up having to swap springs later but they're not super expensive.

planning on 275/70R17's before I drive it off the lot (yeah, I'm on hold until a TRD ORP shows up in a color that isn't claimed by someone ahead of me...)
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This is the other way I was looking at it but OME shocks because I've always heard that 5100's look like crap after a year where they use a ton of salt on the roads in the winter (like...here).

My debate has been which springs. I can see myself adding a gas tank skid pretty early and maybe sliders but probably not the small front bumper for a while. gas skid and sliders are gonna add around 180# but split between front and back. (bumper will add another 80 or so until I also add a winch, at which point the next step up for coils is probably where I would want to be).

hate to end up having to swap springs later but they're not super expensive.

planning on 275/70R17's before I drive it off the lot (yeah, I'm on hold until a TRD ORP shows up in a color that isn't claimed by someone ahead of me...)
If skid plates and sliders are the only weight you're gonna have extra, i'd run stock capacity springs. When I say i'm running around "empty" its with full skid plates front to rear and steel sliders, roof rack, roof mounted case, recovery gear and a well stocked emergency kit. So the weight of a gas tank skid and sliders won't affect stock capacity springs at all.

Both Bilstein 5100 and OME Nitro shocks are steel body and will develop surface rust. My OME's are already rusting on the surface (2 years in Alberta). A coating of fluid film sprayed on them a few times a year would likely slow that process down. Most entry level shocks will rust eventually. I'm personally not worried about it, as I'm not concerned about vanity, it's a trail build that I keep stock enough to daily drive.

I'm in a similar boat to yourself, needing to change springs eventually as I add more weight. I'll just be switching from medium to heavy springs once i've got a full rear bumper with tire carrier installed, my cargo drawers installed and also put my RTT back up top.
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I'm split on what to get. I just want a good ride on the road, not worried about off road performance. I would like these but they're almost certainly overkill and can get Dobinsons IMS for 1 grand less. Probably the Dobinsons are overkill as well, but I will be very upset with a stiff and unforgiving ride.
Dobinson makes a very solid product and I know several people that are extremely happy with their setups (mostly on Tacoma's). Spring rate will be the main factor in ride quality. Stock spring rate will give you a ride that is very close to factory, but with a little less body roll or nose dive. Dobinsons also gives you several choices of lift with stock spring rates, which is nice.
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what color do you like the most? go with that brand. in that price range theyre all going to be solid shocks for your use. Bilstein will be digressive so a bit stiffer on the small choppy stuff. But theyre tried and proven. I enjoyed my wheelers t13 springs (1.5" rear lift) only a 12% increase in spring rate over stock.

Durobumps are FANTASTIC. i would absolutely not run timbrens but thats just me. durobumps allow full compression and do not limit up travel prematurely.
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