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Old 01-04-2023, 03:46 AM #46
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My hazardous KO2 were C LT at 20k miles at around 34 psi. Plenty of chunking from off road use. Like OP said, just wet pavement and my experiences were after many rains so in theory not the oil lifting first few rains. Not talking hydroplane scenario just wet roads.

Another variable not mentioned is recycled content of stuff used during the asphalt resurfacing. Maybe some states prohibit certain stuff.
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Iíve ran 265ís and 285ís for years, Iíve never slipped in wet weather with the KO2ís. They have been a great tire in rain and snow.


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Iíve ran 265ís and 285ís for years, Iíve never slipped in wet weather with the KO2ís. They have been a great tire in rain and snow.


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Came here to say the same thing. I've run them on our 4runner, on my old XJ cherokee, on an LJ wrangler. Never once felt like I was out of control.

Drove all the way to Moab utah on our set of 265's through several rain storms.

Recent storms in Socal had us driving through some serious rain and flooding in the 4runner on 285 KO2's at socal freeway speeds and again, nothing to write home about...


I feel like the siping is always enough, and while I've definitely had traction control engage on startup at lights, when you invariably try to get traction on the slick crosswalk paint, it's on par with the rest of our vehicles.
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I have a set, I have heard the complaints. Mine have been fine to date no issues in the rain, better than some other tires. I dunno maybe the compound ages poorly or at low tread depth they get worse. Mine are 5 years old with about 30K miles on them, rotated frequently.

edit mine are 265-17-70 at 40psi
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My hazardous KO2 were C LT at 20k miles at around 34 psi. Plenty of chunking from off road use. Like OP said, just wet pavement and my experiences were after many rains so in theory not the oil lifting first few rains. Not talking hydroplane scenario just wet roads.

Another variable not mentioned is recycled content of stuff used during the asphalt resurfacing. Maybe some states prohibit certain stuff.
I think you may be on to something. Iím wondering if the tires are more prone to slipping on certain types of asphalt? Form that one video it seems chunking may also be a significant factor.
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You should try some bias ply mud tires, drive very carefully around those wet corners....lol
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Maybe people are just expecting certain tires to act like glue? Not sure.

Either way, still love my KO2's and will replace them with another set on the wife's 4Runner when this set is done.
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Maybe people are just expecting certain tires to act like glue? Not sure.

Either way, still love my KO2's and will replace them with another set on the wife's 4Runner when this set is done.
It's not right away. It hits at about 20-5k miles, when most of the siping is gone and remaining rubber is super hard so that it can hit those high mileage marks.
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It's not right away. It hits at about 20-5k miles, when most of the siping is gone and remaining rubber is super hard so that it can hit those high mileage marks.
Iíve now got over 68K miles on my set of BFG KO2s C-rated tires with no wet weather issues. 🤷*♂️
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I recall reading someone's post about these tires being sketchy in the rain. I sort of ignore that and bought them anyway for my 2016 TE. We don't get too much rain in so Cal so I sort of discounted that and I was really wanting these tires. I'll have to say in the dirt they are great but when rains came I was alarmed at the ease of the vehicle sliding when turning a corner at even slow speeds. Doing a hard break is fine as long as the vehicle is traveling straight. But going around a corner is freaking scarry. I would never buy these tires again and I'm going back to the tire store and see if they can swap them out for something else. I have no other mods and in dry weather the handling is great.

Anyone else notice this?
I have them on several of my 4runners and have loved them, no problem with traction in the rain, but there's a difference.

I see that a lot of the "complaints" come from areas that are generally dry, and when it does rain, the roads are slippery.

It's commonly accepted that roads, when it first rains are more slick because of the buildup on the road in the form of rubber and oils. Whereas in the PNW, where it's wet more frequently, and the rubber and oils are washed away more frequently, we'd have less issues.

Now that doesn't go to say that it doesn't get slick up here, it does, very slick! I've learned to adjust my driving habits.
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I have them on several of my 4runners and have loved them, no problem with traction in the rain, but there's a difference.

I see that a lot of the "complaints" come from areas that are generally dry, and when it does rain, the roads are slippery.

It's commonly accepted that roads, when it first rains are more slick because of the buildup on the road in the form of rubber and oils. Whereas in the PNW, where it's wet more frequently, and the rubber and oils are washed away more frequently, we'd have less issues.

Now that doesn't go to say that it doesn't get slick up here, it does, very slick! I've learned to adjust my driving habits.
I’m not sure if that’s really a factor. Most drivers in California are aware of this when the first rains come in October or November. The local news are always all over this.

It would be interesting thought if we could get people to state when and where there slip and sliding occurs. If most incidents have this happen to Californa during October/November it would prove your assumption, just need data. However, I’m starting to believe it has more to do with the type of asphalt people are driving on. I think some types are more prone to slipping when wet.

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I'm on my second set of KO2's and haven't had nearly the issues some of the others posting here have had. I'm in Houston where it rains off and on constantly (coastal weather), and the only times I can specifically point to a slip are when I've knowingly been gunning it from a stop, or knowingly taken a turn a little quick (and even then they don't always slip). Otherwise we have precipitation ranging from light mists to torrential downpours CONSTANTLY, and I drive a ton for my career. In fact I drove through a terrible rainstorm two weeks ago on I-45 headed up to Dallas and never once felt out of control in speeds ranging from 55-80mph.

I got 96k miles out of my first set of KO2's. I am currently at about 86k miles on these (truck ODO is almost 173k and had stock tires for a short bit before switching to KO2s), and I do not believe they lost any grip at 25k miles as one poster above stated. That sounds more like a QC issue if anything.

If you don't like the tire, don't buy it. There's a reason BFG improved the KO, and I think countless drivers would attest to how much better the KO2 is over the KO. My wife tells me that I sometimes drive like a grandpa, but given the fact this is a truck that won't beat any other vehicle off the line, and it isn't a sports car, I don't drive it like one.
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To the people that say wet traction is bad how do you know any other tire would not have slid in the same circumstance?
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