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2024 unchanged, as expected

Toyota put up a 2024 press release today. The only changes that I see are the new Terra color for TRD Pro and the new Underground color mentioned.

Interestingly, the picture they are using is definitely a photoshop of a pre-2022 TRD Pro, as it doesn't have the front or mirror cameras for the multi terrain monitor, and it has the old TRD wheels.

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Not that there's anything wrong with waiting, but I definitely am glad that I just went for it in 2021 and picked one up. I have had many trips and memories in it since then.

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Toyota put up a 2024 press release today. The only changes that I see are the new Terra color for TRD Pro and the new Underground color mentioned.

Interestingly, the picture they are using is definitely a photoshop of a pre-2022 TRD Pro, as it doesn't have the front or mirror cameras for the multi terrain monitor, and it has the old TRD wheels.

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The marketing folks are clearly in IDGAF mode for the 4Runner, they know it'll sell, and they are likely focused on the Land Cruiser, GX and all the other new models they have right now... 2024 may be the holy grail for 4Runner lovers, cant believe my 2014 looks virtually identical to a 2024, hilarious really!
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Blind spot monitoring and rear cross-traffic alert now standard. That actually surprises me--I'm surprised they did ANYTHING AT ALL beyond messing with an exterior color.

The 6th gen 4Runner has been slow-roasting in the oven for a very long time. They better knock it out of the park. It's their last 4x4 to finally get on TNGA-F.
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Pretty much captures itÖ
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Blind spot monitoring and rear cross-traffic alert now standard. That actually surprises me--I'm surprised they did ANYTHING AT ALL beyond messing with an exterior color.
I'm pretty sure blind spot monitoring and rear cross-traffic alert were already standard on all 2023 models. But there could be other small changes that didn't make the press release cut, like heated steering wheel for premiums and up in 2023.
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I'm kind of liking the Terra color.
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I'm pretty sure blind spot monitoring and rear cross-traffic alert were already standard on all 2023 models. But there could be other small changes that didn't make the press release cut, like heated steering wheel for premiums and up in 2023.
The heated steering wheel was a nice surprise for me on my 2023 ORP - did not expect it.
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I'm kind of liking the Terra color.
I have to admit I like it in the 2020 photoshopped image more than the previous one out there on a 2024 Tacoma.

Will have to wait to see it in person.
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Blind spot monitoring and rear cross-traffic alert now standard. That actually surprises me--I'm surprised they did ANYTHING AT ALL beyond messing with an exterior color.

The 6th gen 4Runner has been slow-roasting in the oven for a very long time. They better knock it out of the park. It's their last 4x4 to finally get on TNGA-F.
I'd bet you a dollar that Toyota does not "knock it out of the park" with the 6th gen. It will be a decent rig but not legendary.
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I think Toyota is holding on to the 5th Gen because customers who buy it want a SUV that’s simple, rugged and reliable.

First rumors have been going around that the 6th Gen will ditch the 6 cylinder for a 4 cylinder turbo. I think a majority of 4Runner don’t want a V4 or Turbo. I look at turbos as shortening the life span on the engine and higher maintenance cost every time engine repairs are needed. It think this is the biggest reason Toyota has been holding off. I’ve already told Toyota that if they don’t offer a standard V6 I won’t buy it.

Next is simplicity. If you off road, simple is better. If something breaks it’s easier to fix. I think there is also a growing backlash amongst consumers with over computerization of cars now days. High computerization are making cars more difficult and expensive to repair. It seems you need to be more of a IT guy instead of a mechanic to fix the new cars nowadays. People want cars to be more simple

Last is reliability. Whenever you add new technology it reduces reliability. It takes time to eventually work out all the bugs. Toyota has kept the 4Runner the way it is because it’s so rugged and reliable. As they say, “If it’s not broke, don’t fix it.”
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I think Toyota is holding on to the 5th Gen because customers who buy it want a SUV thatís simple, rugged and reliable.

First rumors have been going around that the 6th Gen will ditch the 6 cylinder for a 4 cylinder turbo. I think a majority of 4Runner donít want a V4 or Turbo. I look at turbos as shortening the life span on the engine and higher maintenance cost every time engine repairs are needed. It think this is the biggest reason Toyota has been holding off. Iíve already told Toyota that if they donít offer a standard V6 I wonít buy it.

Next is simplicity. If you off road, simple is better. If something breaks itís easier to fix. I think there is also a growing backlash amongst consumers with over computerization of cars now days. High computerization are making cars more difficult and expensive to repair. It seems you need to be more of a IT guy instead of a mechanic to fix the new cars nowadays. People want cars to be more simple

Last is reliability. Whenever you add new technology it reduces reliability. It takes time to eventually work out all the bugs. Toyota has kept the 4Runner the way it is because itís so rugged and reliable. As they say, ďIf itís not broke, donít fix it.Ē
Other than the V4 slip (it'll be an I4,) I agree with what you said...except I don't think the vast majority of future car buyers give a crap about turbo longevity or mechanical simplicity or tech being less reliable.

The relatively small number of 4Runner owners who buy vehicles for those reasons will be overshadowed by the masses who want better gas mileage and 14 inch touch screens to run their favorite devices while they drop their kids off at school.

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Other than the V4 slip (it'll be an I4,) I agree with what you said...except I don't think the vast majority of future car buyers give a crap about turbo longevity or mechanical simplicity or tech being less reliable.

The relatively small number of 4Runner owners who buy vehicles for those reasons will be overshadowed by the masses who want better gas mileage and 14 inch touch screens to run their favorite devices while they drop their kids off at school.

Just an opinion.
You may be right particularly with the younger crowd but if gas prices continue to go up the 4 banger may start to look more attractive to everyone.
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You may be right particularly with the younger crowd but if gas prices continue to go up the 4 banger may start to look more attractive to everyone.
A lot of the time a 4 cyl turbo replacement for a naturally aspirated 6 cyl doesn't equate to better gas milage in real world driving even though it would appear to on paper. People can't keep their foot out of the pedal on the turbo to see the benefit, not to mention a lot of times (though not typically for Toyota) it requires premium fuel.
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I think Toyota is holding on to the 5th Gen because customers who buy it want a SUV thatís simple, rugged and reliable.

First rumors have been going around that the 6th Gen will ditch the 6 cylinder for a 4 cylinder turbo. I think a majority of 4Runner donít want a V4 or Turbo. I look at turbos as shortening the life span on the engine and higher maintenance cost every time engine repairs are needed. It think this is the biggest reason Toyota has been holding off. Iíve already told Toyota that if they donít offer a standard V6 I wonít buy it.

Next is simplicity. If you off road, simple is better. If something breaks itís easier to fix. I think there is also a growing backlash amongst consumers with over computerization of cars now days. High computerization are making cars more difficult and expensive to repair. It seems you need to be more of a IT guy instead of a mechanic to fix the new cars nowadays. People want cars to be more simple

Last is reliability. Whenever you add new technology it reduces reliability. It takes time to eventually work out all the bugs. Toyota has kept the 4Runner the way it is because itís so rugged and reliable. As they say, ďIf itís not broke, donít fix it.Ē
I understand and agree with your sentiment but technology does not equal less reliability. EFI vs carb? Technology is what allowed vehicles to go from lasting 30k-50k miles to 300k-500k miles.
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