User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 01-24-2024, 05:35 PM #16
4runneroffroad2020 4runneroffroad2020 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Canada
Posts: 59
4runneroffroad2020 is on a distinguished road
4runneroffroad2020 4runneroffroad2020 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Canada
Posts: 59
4runneroffroad2020 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by hoppyjr View Post
Your new one will have LED low & high beams standard, along with LED fogs.

The DRL on the 22+ remains the ugly halogen, whereas the high beam is part of the projector where the low beam is.

If your fogs are real high quality aftermarket units like Baja/Diode Dynamics/Morimoto then Iíd keep them and use on the 2024 as they stock ones are just ok.

You could keep your LED high beam bulbs since they are simple to remove. On my 2022 I switched off the DRL function, then removed the halogen DRL bulbs (which remain in the same position as your 2020). I installed 9005 LED bulbs and wired them to my switch panel as auxiliary high beams. They work great. (see my build thread for details).

I noticed that in a youtube videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi7sFN44YvQ there is an option in the infotainment to turn off DRLs. but in canada they are mandated, thus that option is not there for us.
4runneroffroad2020 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-24-2024, 06:53 PM #17
hoppyjr hoppyjr is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 341
hoppyjr has a spectacular aura about hoppyjr has a spectacular aura about hoppyjr has a spectacular aura about
hoppyjr hoppyjr is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 341
hoppyjr has a spectacular aura about hoppyjr has a spectacular aura about hoppyjr has a spectacular aura about
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4runneroffroad2020 View Post
I noticed that in a youtube videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi7sFN44YvQ there is an option in the infotainment to turn off DRLs. but in canada they are mandated, thus that option is not there for us.

Itís strange that Toyota would make the inside halogen lights DRL only, while making the Canada models DRL/High Beams. The inner lamp halogen DRL/High Beam was the 2021 models here.

If that is in fact the case, the VLEDs product is designed for that. Itís specifically designed to work as an anti-flicker DRL in DRL mode, while also giving a substantial LED high beam.

Hereís the link Iím referring to:

14-21 TOYOTA 4RUNNER V50 DRL/HIGH BEAM KIT
hoppyjr is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-25-2024, 01:04 AM #18
4runneroffroad2020 4runneroffroad2020 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Canada
Posts: 59
4runneroffroad2020 is on a distinguished road
4runneroffroad2020 4runneroffroad2020 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Canada
Posts: 59
4runneroffroad2020 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by hoppyjr View Post
Itís strange that Toyota would make the inside halogen lights DRL only, while making the Canada models DRL/High Beams. The inner lamp halogen DRL/High Beam was the 2021 models here.

If that is in fact the case, the VLEDs product is designed for that. Itís specifically designed to work as an anti-flicker DRL in DRL mode, while also giving a substantial LED high beam.

Hereís the link Iím referring to:

14-21 TOYOTA 4RUNNER V50 DRL/HIGH BEAM KIT

For the 22+ my understanding is they dont use the pwm+ anymore.

on my 2020 (16-21) the LED lights i used were as follow...
for the "projector housing " were Nineo,
Fog lights lasfit,
the inner higher beams/drls aux beams that came with the "Decoder" out of the box.

Never had an issues. For 22+ i Need to use this harness
4Runner DRL Harness
– 4runnerDRLmod

before using a specific Led lasfit bulb.

But that company doesnt ship to canada!
4runneroffroad2020 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-25-2024, 02:23 AM #19
hoppyjr hoppyjr is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 341
hoppyjr has a spectacular aura about hoppyjr has a spectacular aura about hoppyjr has a spectacular aura about
hoppyjr hoppyjr is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 341
hoppyjr has a spectacular aura about hoppyjr has a spectacular aura about hoppyjr has a spectacular aura about
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4runneroffroad2020 View Post
For the 22+ my understanding is they dont use the pwm+ anymore.

on my 2020 (16-21) the LED lights i used were as follow...
for the "projector housing " were Nineo,
Fog lights lasfit,
the inner higher beams/drls aux beams that came with the "Decoder" out of the box.

Never had an issues. For 22+ i Need to use this harness
4Runner DRL Harness
Ė 4runnerDRLmod

before using a specific Led lasfit bulb.

But that company doesnt ship to canada!

Thatís true on the US spec 22+ models, but if youíre saying your inner lamps are both DRL & high beam, in halogen, then I suspect they are still using the 2021 circuitry in your vehicle. I know a good bit about lighting and cannot see how they would duplicate the 2021 system without PWM. Additionally it makes some sense to retain the 2021 design rather than design an entirely new halogen system just for Canada and just for a year or two.
hoppyjr is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-25-2024, 02:22 PM #20
4runneroffroad2020 4runneroffroad2020 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Canada
Posts: 59
4runneroffroad2020 is on a distinguished road
4runneroffroad2020 4runneroffroad2020 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Canada
Posts: 59
4runneroffroad2020 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by hoppyjr View Post
That’s true on the US spec 22+ models, but if you’re saying your inner lamps are both DRL & high beam, in halogen, then I suspect they are still using the 2021 circuitry in your vehicle. I know a good bit about lighting and cannot see how they would duplicate the 2021 system without PWM. Additionally it makes some sense to retain the 2021 design rather than design an entirely new halogen system just for Canada and just for a year or two.
Two things in regards to US and Canadian specs... Im not sure if people are aware of this but in Canada we get premium specs by default... In canada the non "premium sr5/ off road" isnt available, unlike the US. specs. Also when it comes to climate controls i noticed the CDN specs are different than the US specs.

The U.S. versions tend to have the triple knobs, whereas in canada we have two knobs and buttons to control the directional airflows. I believe that the 2 knob button w/ directional airflow buttons are only available on US LIMITED editions. Don't quote me on that... I bring this up because they might be using the same concept for wiring of the headlights for Canada / us specs...? :-/

Anyways based on that, do you think i should take a risk and spend the money on getting the Aux beam LEDS and see if they'll work? I need to take pics but basically the inner Halogen bulbs that act as DRLs do become high beams! If it's still PWM+ it will make it easier for me to transition to LEDs again!

Last edited by 4runneroffroad2020; 01-25-2024 at 02:25 PM.
4runneroffroad2020 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-25-2024, 02:39 PM #21
4runneroffroad2020 4runneroffroad2020 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Canada
Posts: 59
4runneroffroad2020 is on a distinguished road
4runneroffroad2020 4runneroffroad2020 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Canada
Posts: 59
4runneroffroad2020 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4runneroffroad2020 View Post
Two things in regards to US and Canadian specs... Im not sure if people are aware of this but in Canada we get premium specs by default... In canada the non "premium sr5/ off road" isnt available, unlike the US. specs. Also when it comes to climate controls i noticed the CDN specs are different than the US specs.

The U.S. versions tend to have the triple knobs, whereas in canada we have two knobs and buttons to control the directional airflows. I believe that the 2 knob button w/ directional airflow buttons are only available on US LIMITED editions. Don't quote me on that... I bring this up because they might be using the same concept for wiring of the headlights for Canada / us specs...? :-/

Anyways based on that, do you think i should take a risk and spend the money on getting the Aux beam LEDS and see if they'll work? I need to take pics but basically the inner Halogen bulbs that act as DRLs do become high beams! If it's still PWM+ it will make it easier for me to transition to LEDs again!

2024 Toyota 4Runner Photo Gallery | Toyota.com


That is what i'm referring to. from what ive seen the premium offroad in the us does not offer that climate control, offered only in the limited edition. But in canada all the TRDOR comes with that "limited edition" both my 2020, and 2024s had that. I'm just bringing this up just referring to above where it was mentioned that canadian and us versions versions might not have differences with wiring/ options...etc
4runneroffroad2020 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-25-2024, 02:51 PM #22
hoppyjr hoppyjr is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 341
hoppyjr has a spectacular aura about hoppyjr has a spectacular aura about hoppyjr has a spectacular aura about
hoppyjr hoppyjr is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 341
hoppyjr has a spectacular aura about hoppyjr has a spectacular aura about hoppyjr has a spectacular aura about
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4runneroffroad2020 View Post
Two things in regards to US and Canadian specs... Im not sure if people are aware of this but in Canada we get premium specs by default... In canada the non "premium sr5/ off road" isnt available, unlike the US. specs. Also when it comes to climate controls i noticed the CDN specs are different than the US specs.

The U.S. versions tend to have the triple knobs, whereas in canada we have two knobs and buttons to control the directional airflows. I believe that the 2 knob button w/ directional airflow buttons are only available on US LIMITED editions. Don't quote me on that... I bring this up because they might be using the same concept for wiring of the headlights for Canada / us specs...? :-/

Anyways based on that, do you think i should take a risk and spend the money on getting the Aux beam LEDS and see if they'll work? I need to take pics but basically the inner Halogen bulbs that act as DRLs do become high beams! If it's still PWM+ it will make it easier for me to transition to LEDs again!

Worth giving it a shot. Iím partial to VLEDís products, but either way Iím betting theyíll work if PWM compatible.
hoppyjr is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-25-2024, 02:57 PM #23
4runneroffroad2020 4runneroffroad2020 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Canada
Posts: 59
4runneroffroad2020 is on a distinguished road
4runneroffroad2020 4runneroffroad2020 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Canada
Posts: 59
4runneroffroad2020 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by hoppyjr View Post
Worth giving it a shot. I’m partial to VLED’s products, but either way I’m betting they’ll work if PWM compatible.
LOL ill give it a shot....


also why is toyota making different versions for us/ canada

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L33hTLn0JT0 the interior wiring etc..
@ 4 min mark for instance you can see the climate select knob... That's the US spec


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRs5oyenrn8

@ 2:50 mark that's the Canadian spec ... different controls...

same concept for the headlights perhaps?

Last edited by 4runneroffroad2020; 01-25-2024 at 03:01 PM.
4runneroffroad2020 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-25-2024, 03:41 PM #24
hoppyjr hoppyjr is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 341
hoppyjr has a spectacular aura about hoppyjr has a spectacular aura about hoppyjr has a spectacular aura about
hoppyjr hoppyjr is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 341
hoppyjr has a spectacular aura about hoppyjr has a spectacular aura about hoppyjr has a spectacular aura about
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4runneroffroad2020 View Post
LOL ill give it a shot....


also why is toyota making different versions for us/ canada

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L33hTLn0JT0 the interior wiring etc..
@ 4 min mark for instance you can see the climate select knob... That's the US spec


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRs5oyenrn8

@ 2:50 mark that's the Canadian spec ... different controls...

same concept for the headlights perhaps?

You guys have had the heated steering wheel longer than us down south. The auto climate controls are only on TRD Pro & Limited models in the USA. No idea why manufacturers do as they do, but you are lucky.
hoppyjr is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-25-2024, 04:29 PM #25
Blackgoat Blackgoat is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2022
Location: Newnan Ga.
Posts: 34
Blackgoat is on a distinguished road
Blackgoat Blackgoat is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2022
Location: Newnan Ga.
Posts: 34
Blackgoat is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by hoppyjr View Post
Your new one will have LED low & high beams standard, along with LED fogs.

The DRL on the 22+ remains the ugly halogen, whereas the high beam is part of the projector where the low beam is.

If your fogs are real high quality aftermarket units like Baja/Diode Dynamics/Morimoto then Iíd keep them and use on the 2024 as they stock ones are just ok.

You could keep your LED high beam bulbs since they are simple to remove. On my 2022 I switched off the DRL function, then removed the halogen DRL bulbs (which remain in the same position as your 2020). I installed 9005 LED bulbs and wired them to my switch panel as auxiliary high beams. They work great. (see my build thread for details).
This is great info are they bright enough to use as High beams?
Blackgoat is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-25-2024, 06:33 PM #26
///AIRDAM's Avatar
///AIRDAM ///AIRDAM is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: vicksburg ms 39183
Posts: 170
Real Name: Adam
///AIRDAM will become famous soon enough
///AIRDAM ///AIRDAM is offline
Member
///AIRDAM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: vicksburg ms 39183
Posts: 170
Real Name: Adam
///AIRDAM will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4runneroffroad2020 View Post
Two things in regards to US and Canadian specs... Im not sure if people are aware of this but in Canada we get premium specs by default... Also when it comes to climate controls i noticed the CDN specs are different than the US specs.
The U.S. versions tend to have the triple knobs, whereas in canada we have two knobs and buttons to control the directional airflows. I believe that the 2 knob button w/ directional airflow buttons are only available on US LIMITED editions.
this is correct, you have the climate control system like the
limited in Canada.
Attached Images
2024 light headlight fog light and high beam lights-img_0565-jpg  2024 light headlight fog light and high beam lights-img_0560-jpg 
__________________
current
2005 Tundra DC limited + 2008 4R Urban Runner + 2023 4R TRD Sport

past
2008 Tacoma TRD Sport DC TRD supercharged + 2012 4Runner Limited
///AIRDAM is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-25-2024, 07:44 PM #27
fkheath fkheath is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Utah
Posts: 1,342
fkheath is a name known to all fkheath is a name known to all fkheath is a name known to all fkheath is a name known to all fkheath is a name known to all fkheath is a name known to all
fkheath fkheath is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Utah
Posts: 1,342
fkheath is a name known to all fkheath is a name known to all fkheath is a name known to all fkheath is a name known to all fkheath is a name known to all fkheath is a name known to all
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4runneroffroad2020 View Post

also why is toyota making different versions for us/ canada
Because the laws are different. Two examples:
1. Canada requires the DRL to be on all the time the engine is running. You can't turn them off. In the USA, there is a DRL off switch on the stalk.

2. Canada requires metric and english units displays, and also French language nomenclature. USA does not.
fkheath is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-29-2024, 02:59 PM #28
4runneroffroad2020 4runneroffroad2020 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Canada
Posts: 59
4runneroffroad2020 is on a distinguished road
4runneroffroad2020 4runneroffroad2020 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Canada
Posts: 59
4runneroffroad2020 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by hoppyjr View Post
It’s strange that Toyota would make the inside halogen lights DRL only, while making the Canada models DRL/High Beams. The inner lamp halogen DRL/High Beam was the 2021 models here.

If that is in fact the case, the VLEDs product is designed for that. It’s specifically designed to work as an anti-flicker DRL in DRL mode, while also giving a substantial LED high beam.

Here’s the link I’m referring to:

14-21 TOYOTA 4RUNNER V50 DRL/HIGH BEAM KIT
DUDEE!!!

You're a FRIGGIN Genius!!!!

It worked i ordered the lights last week, i got them today, and installed them!!
and guess what????????

They WORK!!! no need for that special wire that was suggested on that Youtube channel. So 22+ FOR Canadian models don't need it. Still use PWM+ woooooooooooooo

Thanks for the help!! I dont know where the beer one so i guess you're getting hugs!! XD
Case closed!!!

I took pics.... now to figure out how to upload them since tinyurl is gone!
4runneroffroad2020 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-29-2024, 03:01 PM #29
4runneroffroad2020 4runneroffroad2020 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Canada
Posts: 59
4runneroffroad2020 is on a distinguished road
4runneroffroad2020 4runneroffroad2020 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Canada
Posts: 59
4runneroffroad2020 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by fkheath View Post
Because the laws are different. Two examples:
1. Canada requires the DRL to be on all the time the engine is running. You can't turn them off. In the USA, there is a DRL off switch on the stalk.

2. Canada requires metric and english units displays, and also French language nomenclature. USA does not.
Because of that, The old PWM+ LEDs work!
4runneroffroad2020 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-29-2024, 03:25 PM #30
hoppyjr hoppyjr is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 341
hoppyjr has a spectacular aura about hoppyjr has a spectacular aura about hoppyjr has a spectacular aura about
hoppyjr hoppyjr is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 341
hoppyjr has a spectacular aura about hoppyjr has a spectacular aura about hoppyjr has a spectacular aura about
2024 light headlight fog light and high beam lights

Quote:
Originally Posted by 4runneroffroad2020 View Post
DUDEE!!!

You're a FRIGGIN Genius!!!!

It worked i ordered the lights last week, i got them today, and installed them!!
and guess what????????

They WORK!!! no need for that special wire that was suggested on that Youtube channel. So 22+ FOR Canadian models don't need it. Still use PWM+ woooooooooooooo

Thanks for the help!! I dont know where the beer one so i guess you're getting hugs!! XD
Case closed!!!

I took pics.... now to figure out how to upload them since tinyurl is gone!

Iím glad it worked. Not quite a genius, but Iím pretty adept at lighting issues. The owner of VLEDís is a long time Toyota guy, so when they announced that specific kit I knew it was great stuff.

If you really want some fun, have a look at my build thread and how I did the additional backup lamps. Used VLEDís products to have bright led rear turn signals, eliminate the ďegg yolkĒ look of amber bulbs in clear lens housings, AND double the rear turn signals as additional backup lamps. Completely plug & play with no cutting or modifications. My own idea, but their products are so well designed it happened easily.

Enjoy the new upgrade!

Hoppy
hoppyjr is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Reply

Tags
bulbs , light , premium , stock , trdor

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Headlight high beam position now low beam, low beam position no lights. dogtail 3rd gen T4Rs 5 03-28-2020 07:35 AM
Tapping in the high beam circuit for aux light JWaldz 3rd gen T4Rs 23 03-18-2020 01:33 PM
High and low OEM switch for Aux beam light bar Cozen89 5th gen T4Rs 6 10-24-2017 02:52 PM
Wiring help for light bar integration with high beam switch tnine 5th gen T4Rs 22 10-15-2015 08:49 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:05 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
***This site is an unofficial Toyota site, and is not officially endorsed, supported, authorized by or affiliated with Toyota. All company, product, or service names references in this web site are used for identification purposes only and may be trademarks of their respective owners. The Toyota name, marks, designs and logos, as well as Toyota model names, are registered trademarks of Toyota Motor Corporation***Ad Management plugin by RedTyger
 
Copyright © 2020