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Old 02-19-2024, 12:30 PM #1
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Thinking of upgrading a 2015 Trail Premium to a 2024 TRD Off Road Premium

Iíve read on here that the intangible improvements of the newest 4Runners make them feel like a different vehicle to the older ones.

I have a 2015 Trail Premium that Iím steadily updating, but just wondering if it might be a better idea to just buy a new one. The creature comforts being a major factor. The push button start, blind spot monitoring, heated steering wheel (I live in Chicago and itís cold!). I know the 6th gen is coming out soon but I wouldnít want to buy a first year car since there are usually production issues to work out.
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Not going to comment on the intangible improvements since my ‘21 is my first 4Runner.

However, if you are in a position to buy, don’t want the 6th gen, and can get a solid deal on a ‘24 then I would recommend doing it. You will acquire a 9 year newer vehicle that retains the quality and reliability you are accustomed to. It will also buy you plenty of time to decide on 6th gen many years from now.

If they still offered the Nightshade, for the same reasons above I would even consider trading in for a ‘24. I can’t stand the chrome and wood trim on the limited.
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Iíve read on here that the intangible improvements of the newest 4Runners make them feel like a different vehicle to the older ones.

I have a 2015 Trail Premium that Iím steadily updating, but just wondering if it might be a better idea to just buy a new one. The creature comforts being a major factor. The push button start, blind spot monitoring, heated steering wheel (I live in Chicago and itís cold!). I know the 6th gen is coming out soon but I wouldnít want to buy a first year car since there are usually production issues to work out.

its your decision....factors will vary from person to person

If not wanting a 6th gen then do it, there are multiple dealers in the midwest marking them down 2-4k off msrp. TIV should still be pretty solid too. You know the 4runner already and it will last till whenever you want to get rid of it.

Upgrading isnt bad if you plan to keep it long term. I installed the OEM led headlights and OEM carplay radio. Both of these were a nice upgrade and made the car "some what modern".
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@arouth : how many miles are on your 2015? Have you been fastidious with the maintenance?
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I went from a 2017 to a 2021 and couldn't be happier. If you have the old style Trail roof bars, I'd take it with you. I bought a set for my 2017 and just put it on my 2021. I really like the look. Just my .02
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@arouth : how many miles are on your 2015? Have you been fastidious with the maintenance?
As of now about 72,000 and yes kept up with the maintenance.

As of now I'm thinking of just trying to ad some aftermarket items to my 2015 4Runner Trail Premium and see if I can modernize it and bring some of the features the newer 4Runners have to my older one.
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If the modern conveniences are important to you I would wait. I suspect the 6th Gen will be much more modern than a late model 5th gen, which, in spite of its upgrades, still lags behind other current vehicles. I think thereís a possibility if you get a 5th gen now, after the 6th gen comes out you might find you prefer a 6th gen and regret having bought the new 5th gen.
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When looking at the pricing of the new Land Cruiser no drought you will pay for the new tech. The T4R looks like a bargain compared to a new Taco or LC.
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When looking at the pricing of the new Land Cruiser no drought you will pay for the new tech. The T4R looks like a bargain compared to a new Taco or LC.
The Land Cruiser is intended to be positioned higher than the 4Runner. They all come with full-time 4WD and a rear locker; it's not even possible to get both of those at the same time in the 5th gen.

Can't say I'd agree on the Taco v. 4Runner pricing statement. The Taco has added a lot of luxury options above what a 4Runner currently offers. You can get the pricing crazy stacking options packages on a Tacoma, but you can do the same to a 4Runner. You can slap $6k of crap on top of a 4Runner TRD ORP. My no options '23 ORP felt very expensive for what it was buying it one year ago. $47k...

But for context,

2024 Tacoma SR5 4WD: $41k
2024 4Runner SR5 4WD: $44k
2024 Tacoma Limited 4WD: $51k
2024 4Runner Limited (hybrid) 4WD: $51k

Considering the Tacoma has far, far more modern tech, 4Runner seems to be the more expensive pricing. Lots of gas money to be saved over the years in a new Tacoma compared to a 4Runner.

What I will grant is that 4Runners are currently actually selling $2-4k below MSRP (no surprise), and Tacomas are selling at sticker.
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I would just do some updates to the one you have. CarTrimHome has a heated wheel you can add. People are always selling OEM LED headlights for a couple hundred dollars. A new headunit will give you carplay. And while I love having keyless go, I would not pay thousands for it. For what they would give you in trade and what you will likely pay for the 2024, you might be able to keep your 4R, update it, and also get a used corolla for puttering around and have heated seats and keyless go in that. It's your money though and do what makes you happy.
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FWIW - I would not do anything until you've had a chance to test drive a new Tacoma. I think it's basically a sure bet that the next 4R will be very similar to the 2024 tacoma. There's no reason to jump right now when it's so close to the new model and you can test drive a Tacoma and see how you like the new powertrain.

For me - I'd wait. I think the 6th gen 4R will have significant drivability upgrades from the new engine and transmission. And you'll get a bunch of interior updates and probably 7mpg improvement. Possibly as important as anything else to me - they increased OEM caster to around 5.5* instead of 3* and significantly reduced the kingpin offset. That translates to a lot nicer driving experience with better lane tracking and less steering effort/feedback.

Good luck with whatever you choose. I would at least test drive the new one before making a decision.
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I wanted to stay with the 5th gen for now, and sold my 2016 for a 2023 due to miles on the 2016. I was happy with a few electronic upgrades, in addition to a fresh set of miles.
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I'm with you Arouth. Had a heavily modded 15 Limited with 150k miles. Bought a used 21 ORP for the updated headlights, updated radio/carplay, and the rear locker. Moved all the mods over from the 15 and restored it back to mostly stock. Kept the 15 for my daughter for college. I refuse to buy the first year or two of any vehicle, but imagine we'll grab a 6th Gen 3-4 years into production.
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Thank you for all the advice. I decided to wait on the next 4Runner and just keep doing updates on my current 4Runner in the meantime.

If I could do it again though in 2020 when I bought instead of going used I should have just bought a new one with all the updated features. Iím steadily updating mine though as time goes by.
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Thank you for all the advice. I decided to wait on the next 4Runner and just keep doing updates on my current 4Runner in the meantime.

If I could do it again though in 2020 when I bought instead of going used I should have just bought a new one with all the updated features. Iím steadily updating mine though as time goes by.
This is a good way to look at it. The 2020 really was a massive upgrade when they brought in the new infotainment system along with TSS (and some other stuff depending on vehicle trim). Changes since they have been more incremental I'd say (LED headlights, blind spot monitor, etc.).

A 2025 or 2026 model year vehicle could be such a big step forward from a 2024 4Runner, financially waiting at this point if you can is probably the best step.
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