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5th Gen 4Runner Lift Buyers Guide
On the 5th Generation 4Runner there is a ton of questions about suspensions systems and what people should get to run what tires. I put together this bit of information more as a beginning for people just starting out in the suspension modification game. These are just my recommendations and don’t cover half the available options. Please see
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post about tire fitment here – http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-ge...ml#post1550444
First you need to identify what suspension system you have:
Standard: What I’ll call regular for lack of a better word, comes with “regular” shocks and springs. It’s a coil-spring independent double-wishbone front suspension with stabilizer bar in the front and a coil-spring 4 link with lateral rod rear suspension with stabilizer bar in the rear.
XREAS: You can identify this by looking at all the shocks, they will have a hose coming off of it. This is a full system dependent on each corner, shocks are cross-linked creating a X pattern, thus the name. More information (Link to
K.D.S.S.: from Harper7 via the service manual.
In the KDSS (Kinetic Dynamic Suspension System), a cylinder is installed to each of the front and rear stabilizer bars. The front and rear cylinder upper chambers and the front and rear lower chambers are each connected by a pipe. The hydraulic circuit is filled with high-pressure suspension fluid. The stabilizer control ECU controls the stabilizer control solenoid valves according to input signals from sensor.More info and links here: Kinetic Dynamic Suspension System - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You can have Standard, or a combination of K.D.S.S. with standard, or you can have XREAS. If you have XREAS and want to keep it you are limited to the top spacer lifts.
If there is a suspension system I missed please pm/reply
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the info in the format I have below and I'll get it added.
I’ll start with the cheaper systems and work my way up to the more expensive custom systems.
Spacer Lifts:
1. Daystar
2. Toytec
- Front: 3" Front Lift Spacer Kit -- CNC Machined From T-6 6061 Aluminum or 2 1/2" lift spacers available in plain silver aluminum, Black, Red, or Blue anodized spacers & 6 longer top plate spacer studs. (3" lift spacers only). Rear: (2) Rear 1 1/2" coil spring spacers.Works great with stock shocks. NOTE: 3" front spacers are Not recommended for 2010+ models and will leave the front of your vehicle sitting higher than the rear. Choose 2.5" spacers from the drop down for '10+ FJ and 4Runner, 2010+ models without XREAS USE Kit FJ3-RCC for a level front to rear kit.
- Current Price - $240
- Link to purchase: 3" lift / leveling kit for FJ & 4Runner
- Best Spacer Lift for your FJ & 4Runner! Included in kit:Front: 3" Front Lift Spacer Kit -- CNC Machined From T-6 6061 Aluminum Also available in black anodized for additional $20.00, select from options below. 6 longer top plate spacer studs. Rear: (2) 2" Lift Rear ToyTec "super flex" coil springs. (10% increase above stock capacity and spring rate for the best ride and flex). *Not Advised For Vehicles With XREAS*
- Current Price - $320
- Link to purchase - BEST SELLER! 3" FJ Lift Kit w/spacers and rear ToyTec coils
3. Revtek
4. Readylift SST
- ReadyLift Smart Suspension Technology Lift Kit includes 2 rear OEM style blocks that have the OEM integrated bump stops, 2 coil spring extensions, OEM cast style panhard bracket, 2 front bump stop extensions, carrier bearing spacer, 2 OEM shock extension brackets and all needed hardware. It provides a fast and safe way to bring the front of the vehicle with the rear. This lift kit is easy to install and does not affect the factory OEM ride quality or comfort. It is backed by manufacturer’s limited lifetime warranty.
- Current Price - $410
- To Buy Link - Amazon.com: ReadyLift 69-5060 Smart Suspension Technology Lift Kit: Automotive
5. Truxxx
7. Rough Country
Rough Country 765S - 3-inch Suspension Lift Kit with Nitro 9000 Series Shocks for Toyota
Current Price - $200
To Buy Link - http://amzn.to/1h8Guqk
Rough Country 760.20 - 3-inch Series II Suspension Lift System with Premium N2.0 Series Shocks
Current Price - $250
To Buy Link - http://amzn.to/1jo9woI
Rough Country 760P - 3-inch Series II Suspension Lift System with Performance 2.2 Series Shocks
Current Price - $300
To Buy Link - http://amzn.to/1nOZQd3
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03-22-2014, 08:01 PM
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Non-Rebuildable Coilovers & Shocks:
1. Bilstein 5100
2. Old Man Emu (OME)
- The relationship between vehicle weight and suspension is where Old Man Emu gets its name - the emu is a large Australian flightless bird, when it runs, its powerful legs absorb most of the impact, allowing it to move over all types of terrain while its body remains virtually motionless. This is what Old Man Emu strives to achieve with its range of fully integrated 4x4 shocks and suspension systems. Old Man Emu suspension systems include carefully matched spring and shock combinations engineered to improve vehicle ride, handling and control under various loads.
- $900-$1100 - pending options
- OME full suspension -- Click here for details
3. Toytec Adjustable Coilover
4. Toytec Non-Adjustable Coilover
5. Procomp
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03-22-2014, 08:19 PM
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Rebuildable Coilovers & Shocks:
10. Icon Vehicle Dynamics
11. Radflo
Radflo Suspension Technology - Why Radflo?
$1500-$6000
Quality Off Road Parts & Accessories Since 1999 Toytec Lifts - Toytec Lifts: Toyota Lift Kits: FJ Cruiser Lift Kits, Tacoma Lift Kits, Tundra Lift Kits, 4 Runner Lift Kits, Sequoia Lift Kits, Toyota Truck Lift Kits MetalTech Maximum Impact Website
12. King
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13. Walker Evans
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14. Toytec Boss
- Designed for the best overall ride comfort and performance in mind, this complete lift kit is the best lift on the market. Comes fully assembled and ready to bolt on. All parts are 100% made in the U.S.A. ToyTec's new BOSS front coilover is designed with a larger 5/8" Nitro steel shock shaft which is much more corrosion resistant than chrome plating and is valved specific to your Toyota. Our BOSS kits comes standard with Toytec RCC2.0 rear springs. These springs offer 2" of lift with stock rear weight with the best overall ride quality and rear articulation.
- $1290
- Amazon.com: Toytec Lifts Boss Suspension System for 2010 & up FJ Cruiser and 4 Runner: Automotive
15. Camburg
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16. Sway-A-Way
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17. Fox
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03-22-2014, 08:19 PM
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Long Travel Kits:
18. Total Chaos
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19. Camburg
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03-22-2014, 11:00 PM
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Super awesome idea. My humble suggestion is to change "Standard" to "Stock". Your current definition explains exactly what we have in "stock" form. Standard seems to imply that all of the suspension components are the same across the entire line up (most parts are but KDSS and XREAS change some things). Thanks for putting the time into this - it's a huge project, but it will be a big help for a lot of people. Free beers are waiting should you ever come through the my area.
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You might want to include some information on the differences between rubber, poly bushings and spherical bearings, for both shocks and control arms.
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03-22-2014, 11:56 PM
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Great idea! Probably a bigger undertaking! This will be quite helpful when its finished. Says the completely overwhelmed totally undecided person looking for a good system.
If I may suggest maybe include a link to the Coilover Bible or anything else similar.
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, you're putting in work on this thread. Go you!
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03-23-2014, 11:48 AM
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New to the forum, Is it ok to ask questions here on this thread? Just bought a 2010 Le, looking for info on how to remove xreas. Would like to install 2.5" spacer lift and fox racing shocks on all corners. Any info or a link would be helpfull
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Quote:
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New to the forum, Is it ok to ask questions here on this thread? Just bought a 2010 Le, looking for info on how to remove xreas. Would like to install 2.5" spacer lift and fox racing shocks on all corners. Any info or a link would be helpfull
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There's another thread or sticky for these questions. Use the search bar first. If you're planning on going with a 2.5" spacer lift on top of a coilover Fox set up, you better plan on buying extra CV axles more frequently. I think the angle of the cv's will be too great. Do one or the other.
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Will do. Thanks for the info cbielat
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@ Jesse1983
think this is ready for the sticky area, i'll try to finish it up later tonight. Then i'll be doing the UCA are buyers guide.
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Since I'm limited by my XREAS suspension...what's the biggest tires I can put on my factory 20" rims if I get the 1.5" spacers on front and rear?
w/o any lift, the biggest you can do is 275 55r20....can I go up to 60 or 65 w/ the lift?
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Very Informative
Very informative, thanks for taking time...
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